Tommy Gavin (
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ways_back_room2013-01-21 07:06 am
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stealing the DE...
...because I am awake way too early today.
So: who are your pups' heroes? Who do they most admire, respect, or want to emulate? They can be from their own canon or even people they've met at Milliways.
So: who are your pups' heroes? Who do they most admire, respect, or want to emulate? They can be from their own canon or even people they've met at Milliways.

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Ben's first hero was his older brother. He, like many of his generation, also worshiped Captain America, but Daniel was his real life hero.
Jessica's hero is Carol.
Thalia's is Atalanta.
Hank's is hard to say, not because he doesn't have them. His first would be his Grandfather, but beyond that it would be protagonists from the Science Fiction of the early 60s (which I am not wholely familiar with). I can see him loving James Bond, too, though I've never read the books.
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Adrian Shephard has always had a great deal of admiration for Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock. Also for Mr. John Milton- yes, the one who wrote Paradise Lost. You don't have to be a writer yourself to admire somebody who can make the English language do the things Milton did. As a little kid Shephard kind of idolized the National Guard because of the work they did during the Cheat River Flood, so there's that too. (ETA: I'm pretty sure Teddy Roosevelt is on his list as well, now that I think about it.)
Ray Stantz has generally idolized Charles Proteus Steinmetz and Nikola Tesla. To the point where he once refused to take on a government contract unless they were declared national heroes. (This happened. The government was not fooling around that day.)
I am honestly not sure who Hektor looks up to. I'm sure there's somebody and that it's not Herakles. Beyond that I don't know.
Also I don't know who Mordin admires, although if there's a salarian equivalent of Leonardo da Vinci it's probably him or her.
Varric... I suspect there's some unknown Paragon who he prefers to all the others, it just hasn't come up yet (and I shall probably have to make her or him up, if the topic ever arises).
I don't know about Medic's heroes. Max Josef von Pettenkofer and Werner Forssmann are pretty strong candidates, though. (The first one was a public health researcher who drank live cholera cultured from a dead patient, the second one invented heart catheterization by doing it to himself, you probably don't want more details).
And Ellen I'm not sure about, except that it's not her father. She appreciates everything he did and she's just about managed to get over most of her resentment about the lying, but she still thinks Dad had some of the worst personal judgment and planning skills of anybody she's ever known.
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"It's hard to go wrong with Captain America. But about your Dad? It's OK to still love him, still respect the role he played, if not the player.
"Actually, I'm pretty sure it's OK to punch the player as hard as you can, but check with Cap on that."
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Charles, let's see, Darwin is a scientific hero, JFK, FDR, Martin Luther King Jr and Gandhi for how they've brought people and changed the world as he wishes to do.
William now sees his father as someone he admires, but it took him time to get there. In Milliways, its a longer list of people that he looks up to; Ellen Park, Adrian Shephard, Teja, Bill Pardy.
Sameth's list isn't huge, his parents, Kait, older!Alanna, Diana, and older!Tavi.
Demeter doesn't really work for this as she is herself and so doesn't have a need for anyone to look up to or try to emulate. Basically the only person on this list for her is her daughter.
Moist is another who this doesn't really work for because there aren't many people who he can admire and go, I want to be like them. Saffron is probably the only person who kind of fits this for him.
Tumnus really only has three, his father, Lucy and Aslan.
The Pirate King, I'm not certain, according to canon, the queen but I don't know who else.
Isn't it thrilling!
Yup.
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Lois' heroes are her mom and, despite herself, her dad. Frankly, Martha and Jonathan are swiftly stepping up to the plate, though.
Tavi used to have Bernard while a kid and Alanna while a teen in M'ways, and briefly Magnus on the academic field. These days? No one. (If Septimus had lived, it would've been him and Araris, or if Sextus had been a nice and better person, it would've been him. But not so much.)
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Mike: Hamato Yoshi, Bruce Lee, Jimmy Buffett, Michael Bay (seriously, canon)
Raph: Hamato Yoshi, Bruce Lee, John McClane,
Aang: Monk Gyatso, General Iroh, Hakoda of the Southern Water Tribe, King Bumi of Omashu, and you know...all of his past lives.
Bumi: His father, his namesake, his mother, Councilman Sokka,
Ida: HAL, GlaDos
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*Not strictly true. Two are just planning an assassination.
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It's kind of a 'when all you have is a hammer' problem they have.
Tyler's intervention looks a lot like taking Autor to a bar back home and saying, 'Right, everyone here except you and me, on some level, thinks of humans as food. At least half of them are more ethical than your role model. THIS MAY BE A PROBLEM!'
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Poor Mike.
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...um. I'm not sure that he has any heroes, per se. About the closest I can come up with would be Saturos, and any relationship that begins with kidnapping and ends with (roughly) "See? I knew you'd betray us!" isn't going to cross over with hero-worship very well.
Kain idolizes his late father.
Fluttershy adores Princess Celestia.
This does not particularly distinguish her from the rest of the herd.Re: Isn't it thrilling!
Or bristle and use some variation of, "I don't have to explain myself to you," in a manner that implies something ghastly about Tyler's intellect.
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So he's a mun, basically. ;)
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There was her brother, but then he brought the Mahjarrat into the world, and they did something to her. Canon isn't clear what, but canon blames them for the way she turned out.
Canon is very quiet on the subject of her mother, but I can't imagine that Amascut admires her mother in any way except for how devastating her wrath can be. (Seriously, don't mess with a river goddess. Don't mess with any god who takes a hippopotamus as their sacred animal, in fact.)
There was someone else, but he's dead now. Permanently.
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Needless to say, he's had something of an ideological shift since then, and he's a bit more chaotic than the good Captain, alignment-wise. He'll never admit it in a million years, but right now his role model is Mother, his team leader.
John...well, when he first escaped the orphanage, Dutch was his role model. Then he went cray-cray.
Mako's role model is his father.
Spoilers for a 15+ year show
Autor, on the other hand... Well, he's just a 16-year-old aspiring Drosselmeyer with a massive inferiority complex and an inflated sense of his own ego which he uses to hide it. I'm still surprised that people here like this jerkass--clearly I'm playing him wrong! ;)
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Oh, no, it would be, wouldn't it? Sadness.
Re: Spoilers for a 15+ year show
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Knox always wanted to be Woodward and Bernstein. Even after Bernstein ran away to Hollywood and Woodward pointed a finger at a comatose ex-CIA director. (Knox doesn't really expect much from his heroes.) He admires the new superheroes, but doesn't really think of them as heroes to himself personally.
Gibbs's only hero is Capt. Jack Sparrow, of course.
Charlie doesn't have any heroes. Everyone is flawed and everyone is capable of being heroic, or a bad guy. Heroes, even in a world with Superman, are an illusion.
Howard Stark looks up to Einstein, Edison, Bell, Marconi and the Wright Brothers. And is really disappointed that Lindbergh turned out to be such a jerk and a hater.
Cy looks up to the great civil rights leaders (even knowing that some of them were not the best of humans) and to Rosa Parks. It really matters to him that an ordinary woman made a bigger difference than he ever will. He also admires athletes like Bill Bradley who didn't get defined entirely by athletics.
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Erik's were Feynman, Einstein, Goddard, von Braun and Chandrasekhar. These days his wwxd, tends to go to Dr. Foster Snr (I probably should talk with Kati about millicanoning his name).
Alfred's are a range, from Jeeves and Arthur Wellesley, to some more close to home, like his dad, and Thomas Wayne.
Max's are James Clerk Maxwell, Howard Carter and Einstein.
Jack's heroes are Max, who he wishes he could have spent more time working with, and Ellen Park, who seems to go through more in a day than he has in his lifetime.
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As for Tommy and Lou, aside from being close friends, they respect each other deeply and know that they'd risk each other's lives for one another.
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In Millicanon, Enzo's historical hero is Tron, who founded the Guardians. He reads all the comics (most of them totally apocryphal).
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Borgel, weirdly, still seems to harbor some affection and/or respect for his father. Though that might just be fear.
Leela admires the Doctor. She also looked up to her mother and father when they were alive, and still thinks of them often.
Kane is the sort of person who gets looked up to. He's not the sort who does the looking up.
Tuco only admires Tuco.
Caius, naturally, idolizes the Emperor. He'll swear up and down that he's the best since Tiber Septim himself. (Speaking of which, he's not above the odd prayer to Talos every now and then).
Garyn wouldn't quite know what to say. His respect for his ostensible adoptive father is more grudging than anything else - the Old Man was always more of a drillmaster than a parent. If pressed, he might say Tiber Septim or something similar, given how many times he's read or been forced to read his Commentaries on the Wars of the Colovian Estates.