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Hey gang! I would like to introduce you to a confusing person: Kim.

If you're not familiar Patricia C. Wrede's Mairelon the Magician, ~~you should go buy it right now~~ here are the pertinent facts: Kim's a London street-rat, c. 1815 (a couple years before canon), a decent pickpocket and an excellent lockpick.

Kim is also a she dressed as a he. Which is where the potential confusion comes in.

Kim spends seventeen years passing for a boy (with considerable help from her friend malnutrition). She's good at it; the first person in canon who recognizes her true sex is a spy. Of course, when she comes to Milliways, she's going to be running into a lot more people who've had training to observe people closely, or who can smell the difference between male and female, or who are telepathic, or whatever. This is cool! This is what Milliways is about.

However. I do request that if your character fits into one of the above categories, or is otherwise liable to notice that Kim's a girl, please get in touch with me before outing her. I'm not entirely averse to the idea (even if Kim is), but I would prefer to talk with you before going there. Communication is love, yes? Yes.

I am SO excited to start playing her. :D See y'all in the bar!

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Yes! I have read Mairelon the Magician. But it was a while ago.

I think she should meet Emma Bishop, who comes from a country much like Edwardian Britain on a sort of alternate Earth. She's a detective and will see right away that Kim's a girl, but she's not going to out her. Are you playing her pre-canon or what?

Oooh. :D That sounds like it could be great fun.

A couple years pre-canon, yes -- just before the constables break up Mother Tibb's little gang of Dickensian street thieves.

HOLY CRAP KIM YAY.
Angel would probably work it out, given his experience with people who cross-dress for fun moreso than profit, but he wouldn't say anything to anyone but her. The rest of my characters, with the maybe-slightly-possible exception of Morwen (we can figure that out if they ever thread), likely wouldn't have a clue, though.
But yes. KIM! (I haven't read those books in years, but I have them!)

. . . The image of Kim and Angel cracks me right the hell up. She would be SO CONFUSED. I mean, guys who like boys she's familiar with; drag queens not so much.

Who are your others, besides Morwen and Angel? I have a terrible memory.

abar_starclog (Carl, from Sneakers) and

snap_time (Larry, from Night at the Museum).
Also Erronius, if I can ever get him IN the damn bar. He'd probably go 'pardon me, young woman' by default, just because he does that to everyone in canon. XD

I have at least one character who would figure out her secret pretty quickly, but his app hasn't gone through yet, so we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

Ooh, I think I was considering getting that book at Barnes and Noble a while back. I should go pick it up next time. :D

And some of my pups are sharp. I'd say the only ones who might definitely notice though would be Kuan Yin (bodhisattva and goddess so knowing true natures of people) and Johnny Smith (from Dead Zone series) since he's a psychometric psychic.

But looking forward to seeing her in the bar nonetheless!

YES YOU SHOULD. (There's a sequel, too!)

Yyyeah, goddess and psychic, that sounds fair. *grin*

Hee, she sounds like a fun character! Hope one/both of mine run into her in Bar, sometime. =D

And I don't think I have any characters that'd notice...Ganymede's a few millenia old, so I guess, in a stretch, he could figure it out, but it probably wouldn't strike him, really. And Momiji's a quasi-crossdresser, most of the time, but not in a way that would give him any real insight into trying to look like the opposite gender.

Well, I don't play any spies, so you're safe with me.

Good thing, too.

One sniffing type person, here! Spoon's a werewolf, but he's more likely to say "So, I smell really well.", let her draw her own conclusions, and not say anything about her sex one way or the other.

Kim: *panicked* You mean you can track me?

Spoon: Well . . . yeah, that too.

Kim: CRAP. --Not that I have to worry about being tracked from crime scenes. Or anything.

Spoon: *rattles braids* Do I look like a police dog?

Kim: Well, uh.

. . . No, but you're bloody intimidating as is, anyway.

Spoon: ...Sorry about that. It's a thing.

Quick character rundown:

Death - no question about him knowing. Out of all my characters, he might be the only one who actually cares, in an intellectucally curious way.

Cera - all humans look the same to her. I figure she'll smell/mystical animal snese it, but she won't realise Kim's supposed to be a boy.

Nanny - No question, again. If she couldn't tell a simple matter like girls dressed as boys, she wouldn't be the second greatest witch in the Ramtops. She will be subtle and senstive about it, though. Nanny respects people's right to be who they want to be.

Karolina and Mel won't have the foggiest. (Unless Mel touches her with telepathy all working, but she probably won't.) Those are the two I'm more likely to tag with, because they happen to have a situational affinity to street rats. :-)

Eee Mel! All those look reasonable to me. :)

Illyria will know. Illyria also probably won't realize she's not supposed to know, unless conversation gets around to the fact that it's a secret. Her concepts of gender are kinda fuzzy, since she didn't use to have one. She doesn't mind keeping people's secrets if she knows she's supposed to, but she fails a lot at tact.

I don't actually forsee it being a problem, because I fail at tagging out and you're likely to have outed your character some other way by the time I even get mine back in Bar. >.>

'Nother werewolf pup! He'd probably point it out because ~~he's an asshole~~ he doesn't really like kids to start with.

That's assuming he realizes she's pretending to be a boy in the first place...which is also likely.

I have a pup that will probably figure it out, but he'd never, ever say anything, and he's a Surprise!Sekrit!Pup, so I can't out him right now. :-)

However, out of my other pups, if Kendra here ever finds out? She'll be SO glad to meet another chick with short hair in Bar.

Seriously.

*griiiins* Oh, I can't wait to throw Alanna at her. She... might suspect something, depending on how it goes. :D

*makes note to find this book*

YES PLEASE. On throwing at the very least. :D :D :D

Toootally the wrong journal to be posting it with, but the only one of mine who might know is Ana, Changing Woman.

Remy, being a thief himself, (and good with people/knowing girls like that *cough*Belle*cough*) would probably figure it out.

Neither of them is liable to out her though, not without damn good reason.

. . . Remy and Kim should TOTALLY meet. They can talk shop.

Hahah! He'd love that, doesn't get the chance very much around here.

The only one of mind who'd ever figure it out is Sylar, and I'm not sure you'd want him meeting her anyway. *wry grin* But on the off-chance that they ever run into each other, women "sound" a bit different from men to him, so.

(Though the background interference from Milliways itself could always cheerfully wreak havoc on that, if you'd prefer. I am easy like pie.)

Aheh. I . . . have no idea how that would go, beyond Kim probably going "Maybe I won't hang around this guy."

*eyes icon* Mercer?

...I am a dumbass. Yes, Mercer would be able to tell, too, but he'd keep quiet about it. Thieves gotta do what they gotta do.

And that, I think, could be fun. *grin* I may talk to you later about it.

*cackles belatedly, having forgotten to check the back room for a couple of days*

I love Kim. Oh yes. And would love to thread with her. >:D

Um. River I think would know, because... River. She would not especially care; we can talk about whether you want her to show any sign that she realizes, when/if they meet, because this is River and her conversational patterns are... haphazard. If she knew Kim wanted it to be a secret, though, she wouldn't tell. (Except by accident. But usually she's pretty good about that.)

Lan I think would also twig fairly quickly, because he's very, very good at reading body language. He wouldn't say a thing (except probably to Nynaeve and maybe Moiraine), though, nor show any sign that he'd noticed.

Piotr, Regan, and Will are all pretty likely to be fooled, though, given how good Kim is at passing.

I have no idea if Ajedrez would notice or not - she's a federal agent, and has spend time on the streets when she was younger so she's somewhat familiar with girls dressing as boys, but basically, I don't know. She might be suspicious, but wouldn't out her.

Marlowe...would. He's a spy, and a very intelligent, observant one at that, but he wouldn't out her. He's spent nine years being someone else, he isn't going to out someone else.

(well, not unless it was profitable, but different worlds!)

I don't know Ajedrez's canon at all, but because I'm difficult, I lean against giving her the benefit of the doubt in re: her ability to distinguish gender. Suspicion is fine, though! (Basically I just want there to be some people who'll be fooled. ;D)

And Marlowe sounds fair. I would love to see them interact -- she could get some experience with English spies. He wasn't spying on the French by any chance, was he? *grin*

No, it's fine with AJ! Her type of fed seems to be more...dramatic and fail than spy. It's Robert Rodriguez canon *grins*

Yes, yes he was, actually! He spent so much time over in France that Cambridge was all set for accusing him of being a Catholic himself and not giving him his degree, until they got a message from the Privy Council going 'he was on her Majesty's business. Give him his Masters, now, thank you'

And then it was the Dutch, and then just English folk. But, yes, he started off spying on the French!

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