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Steph Mu Ji ([personal profile] muji) wrote in [community profile] ways_back_room2008-06-10 08:12 am
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From Maru:

What positions does your character defend in IC discussions that you-the-mun definitely do not share?

Iiiii am unsure if there are any that notably come to mind, since I have a reputation for picking characters that I personally agree with. I suppose Delysia's sexual proclivities aren't necessarily something I share. I also am not entirely against organized central government like Mal is? Or something? *eyes self* You know what I mean.

[identity profile] tinylegacies.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Well... Robin carries a gun. They don't really delve into her political stance on it, but I'm definitely in favor of stricter gun laws and I would imagine she is not.

[identity profile] timjr.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not share:
Barney's beliefs about how to behave with women
Eric's beliefs about how to behave with women
Herc's beliefs about how to behave with women
Eric's beliefs about the SHRA

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[personal profile] ashen_key 2008-06-10 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] playsbothsides's heart is in the right place, but I don't approve of how she uses people and then doesn't feel guilty about it.

[livejournal.com profile] didntseeit runs a drug cartel in Mexico, after lying about her identity for years. I think I disagree with just about everything she does, aside from the fact that she tried to make her daddy proud and tries to make her son safe and happy and have a good life.

The others, um.

Medusa eats humans?

ETA: Ah-HA! There we go. AJ's Catholic, I've been raised atheist. Trying to see her point of view occasionally gives me a headache.
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2008-06-10 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Religion is weird for me, yeah. the only one close to my religious beliefs is Mel, who is agnostic humanist.

I assume Will is CofE when it was essentially protestant.
Francesca is Catholic in faith despite hating the Catholic church.
I think Karolina has hotch potched together a mixture of Christianity, mainstream pagan spirituality and zen buddhism without really deciding what she's doing.
Death doesn't believe in gods: he comes for them.

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[personal profile] innerbrat 2008-06-10 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh.
Um.
I think I'm a bit like you.

Well, Will's got a stance on a lot of things I don't share, but he wouldn't defend them in discussions? Maybe mostly his conviction that the end justifies the means.
Karolina shares my opinion on a lot of things, but with her it's a little more personal and a little less informed.
Francesca, ditto. She's more strident in her beliefs, and occasionally borders on misandrist.

Mel's a classist and an anarchist, whereas I try to be more balanced? Ah, there we go - Mel's pro-gun, I'm pro-gun control. She thinks that arm everyone and they can fight their own battles, I think that arm everyone and you get a lot of teenagers in London stabbing each other.


Death prefers cats to dogs. Weirdo.
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2008-06-10 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, yeah, Francesca's opinions on love and how it equates to monogmay are IMO, unrealistic, ill-informed and not grounded in experience. I forgive her because she's proven right in canon.

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[personal profile] newredshoes 2008-06-10 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with Josh Lyman more than Prometheus about government and authority -- namely, it can be stupid as all get-out, but when you can make it work for the greater good, it's worth it.

I'm a huge believer in social responsibility, which is... pretty much a 180 from 494/Alec.

Scar's entitlement and superiority issues... would make me scream in a real person. :)

(Steph, I am so twitchy. Why am I twitchy?)

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[identity profile] canadabear.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Hrm.

Clark is definitely more willing to keep trying to see good in someone when there is clearly no good to be had!

I would like to say I disagree with Sikozu's assessment that humans should be wiped out for the good of the universe, but, um, I can't. >.>

I do, however, have to disagree with Bizarro and that gutting people for fun is not cool, or fun. Nor is toying with people's emotions for same.

Ummmmmm Celaeno... ahaha. Ha. Yeah.

The one that really got me though, was Melou and his treatment of women. That was hard, sometimes, to write.

(Anonymous) 2008-06-10 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Religion's a biggie for me. I was raised Catholic but am agnostic by now; Father Mulcahy is, well, a Roman Catholic priest. It makes my life very difficult on occasion. I've had characters start arguing with him about faith/belief before, and I've been like, 'BUT, BUT, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THE OTHER CHARACTER IS SAYING DDDDDD:' On one or two occasions, I actually showed the arguments to friends of mine who are religious and are spiritual, and asked for help in how to respond.

I do not share Plourr's love of violence. She likes to say it solves everything and will gleefully defend that position to the death, and as someone who's basically majoring in violence/peace studies -- yeah, I won't defend that. I have a lot of characters in general who believe that fighting will solve major problems, and I don't truck with that.

I play a couple of characters both here and in another game who are very, very pro-America and who (I think; neither has a canonical stance on this so I'm still deciding) support the war on terror, and I very strongly do not. Then there's Frank Burns, who I no longer play but who is a homophobic racist Communist-hunting paranoid who drapes his every action in khaki green and the stars and stripes. He'd defend all of those stances in IC discussion while I facepalmed.

-stealth Lexie
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2008-06-10 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I hear you on being a pacifist playing violent characters.

And if we're talking about past characters, I had a character once who thought it was OK to wear someone's skin as clothing just because he killed and ate her grandmother.

AND one who believed profit was the only justifiable reason to kill another human being.

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Forgive me if this is incoherent...

[identity profile] buongiornodaisy.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't share Paul's "atheism" (he thinks he is atheist; once he realizes his beef is with organized religion, and that living with a god complicates his atheism, he will probably identify as agnostic or Ouranostheistic [like he is Ouranosexual]), though I did once, which makes writing his anti-religion/theology rants not a stretch for me.

James Bond...yyeaaah, enough said. Although if you ever ask Danny!Bond about His Thoughts on Iraq, he may say things I agree with!

Fredo Corleone, due to his environment, likely has opinions on minorities that I ~soooo~ don't share.

It has yet to be demonstrated that Juliet Burke shares the same views as her ex-husband, Edmund (http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Edmund_Burke), who wants those damn rowdy liberals to get off his lawn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflections_on_the_Revolution_in_France).

...WAIT WRONG EDMUND BURKE LAWL

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I have better personal hygiene than John does.
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[personal profile] aisforamy 2008-06-10 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't most people? XD
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[personal profile] agonistes 2008-06-10 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
*looks at Al Swearengen*

*just starts to laugh*

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[identity profile] candied-rabbit.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Momiji is a great deal more optimistic than I am, both about life and about humanity in general. He's got that whole "everyone's inherently good, but they just do bad things, so why should I blame it on them?" thing going on, to the point that, after being kicked out of the house when he was just a little kid and having his mother's memory of him wiped clean by a relative, he still thinks the world of both parents and the guy who did the wiping.

I'm not that pessimistic, either, but it's definitely not an idea that I wholeheartedly share.

Dahlia still tends to think that non-Travellers (save a few friends, maybe) are crass, untrustworthy, materialistic twits. And that is why she will continue to scam them and steal their stuff.
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[identity profile] lienne.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Well. Matilda believes firmly (for obvious reasons) that children under ten should be given every opportunity to behave like adults, and loaded with adult responsibilities if they prove they can take it. Naturally I don't share this view, because there are no real Matildas, and it would go badly in anything other than her particular special case. But I find myself completely able to argue on her side, because she is the special case and a seven-year-old competently debating philosophy is a pretty good argument by example in its own right.

Raz... um, 'scuse me a moment. *giggles helplessly in a corner* Right. Raz believes that sex solves everything, except for the things that are solved by violence instead. This is lovely in theory, but if she had the mental coherence to actually argue in favour of it I would facepalm a LOT in the course of the discussion.

Imriel doesn't argue, but when he does, he and I are pretty clearly aligned. I do tend to pick up characters who agree with me about things (ignore the great big box of elsegame serial killers behind the curtain).

[identity profile] kali921.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
She-Hulk - is (well... WAS, as of three issues ago, before the catastrophic disbarment and ALIEN FUCKING INVASION) an officer of the court as a practicing attorney. Shulkie's incredibly progressive in her political views and she's on occasion chosen to represent people that would make me run screaming into the night, but she's done that because she has (HAD) an unshakeable belief in the right of everyone to have a good legal defense. Shulkie's deeply involved in the study of jurisprudence and Constitutional law, she's a firmly committed to civil rights, and she has a keen, keen sense of justice, honed even more finely after watching her cousin get repeatedly fucked over for the last ten years. I'm pretty progressive in my political views, but I'm much more of a misanthrope. Shulkie somehow never, ever loses that overall faith in sentient beings to ultimately act with kindness and grace.

Where I differ less with Shulkie is that she won't hestitate to punch out your lights and wreck your secret island fortress if she catches you doing something bad. Emotionally I can't argue with that, as I'd be likely to brain someone with a shovel if I caught them kicking a puppy or something.

Shulkie exists in this weird dual state of operating both firmly within the law and very much outside of it, but that's nothing new for any superhero that's also a costumed vigilante.

Shulkie's smarter than I am and she has much more of an analytical mind. I was kind of blown away when the Living Tribunal selected her to be one of the magristrati, because that shows just how sharp she really is. She's also far more clearheaded than I am. She likes people. I tend to like them less and less every time I read or watch the news or get on the internet.

Hawkgirl - Hawkgirl will unhesitatingly mete out death. I try to be a little more circumspect. She has a tolerance for gore and carnage that I could never, ever muster. Kendra operates on an old school sense of frontier justice, obviously, just like Hawkman and most of the other DC characters whose origin can be traced to ancient history (Black Adam, Nabu, etc.). "Due process"? Why bother?

Kendra spent a lot of time in continuity being defined mostly by her wounds and loss. That's very different from me, since I tend to try to take things head on and at least try to deal with them, while she at a certain point lapsed into avoidance, but that's more due to bad writing.

Kendra likes film and archaeology, like I do. But she likes greasy poor boys and fried food, which I most definitely do NOT. Ugh.

Also, hi Steph!

Edit: Oh, wait. Forgot to mention that She-Hulk is a libertine when it comes to men. She has a lot of good sex with a lot of different men and is not ashamed of this in the least. I, on the other hand, am capable only of serial monogamy. "Sex positive" does not begin to describe Jennifer Walters.
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[identity profile] bethan-b-bad.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm.

I don't believe all adults are eeeevil, but I think Molly's right to be freaked out about them.

I... actually, I could justify Sam's canonical mind rape of another archangel, because she was working towards the end of the world, and the world was going to end if he didn't. That's about the only justification I could see for it, though -- but then again, Sam feels the same way. Just because he can do the stuff doesn't mean he wants to or thinks he should.

I agree with a lot of stuff Sam thinks, actually.

I don't think Libby should really have got back together with Dennis, who let's face it is kind of a loser and treated her appallingly. YOU DON'T GET PRIZES JUST FOR BEING NICE, GUYS.

Also, I don't think that Cardiff is shit. Suzie.
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[identity profile] bethan-b-bad.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, but I don't entirely agree with Sam's attitude to sex. To flirting, yes, but not to sex.

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[identity profile] stuck-mynock.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Atton doesn't really have a lot of views for me to share - His ideas about most things are 'If it doesn't harm anybody and it doesn't affect me, then I don't actually care.' Which is what I think about most things, too, actually, but that's about it.

His views on violence (that being 'Violence? I love violence!'), I don't really agree with. There are probably other views I agree and/or don't agree with, too, but I'm drawing a blank on them right now.
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2008-06-10 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
That's a good philosophy to have and seems to make a lot of sense for Atton.

[identity profile] gethenian.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
What positions does your character defend in IC discussions that you-the-mun definitely do not share?

I used to RP Harry Potter by having him do and say more or less the exact opposite of what I would in the situation.
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2008-06-10 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
This is an interesting one. I haven't really done it that much with Will since his time and its philosophies are so different, but I was raised a Quaker so I don't fall back on violence like he does. Also I don't completely understand his Catholicism at all again being raised Quaker I sort of have to look at it with a historical perspective. Oh and his whole I'm a peasant so less than, I really disagree with but that's also part of who he is as a character.

Demeter is a lot more free with her sexuality than I am and she has no problem with vengeance at all which I find a little scary.

The Pirate King is well a pirate who's happy to steal his wife and sing about it, but he doesn't kill orphans. Um its Gilbert and Sullivan and quite strange.

Tumnus is trickier since he's in a hard place and I think he wants to be the best faun he can, its just he's living in an occupied country. So I'm really not sure.

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Raph is a Yankees fan.

Mike...uh...I'm finding it hard to think of something I don't agree with Mike on, and the only thing that comes to mind is the whole Domesticated Vampire sales idea.

Which, in his defense was really MY idea, so I don't know if that counts...
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[personal profile] bcgphoenix 2008-06-10 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I have two words, and only two.

Evolutionary. Imperative.
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Can I also add in "OM NOM NOM"?

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[personal profile] adiva_calandia 2008-06-10 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Kim thinks people are basically selfish and untrustworthy. *wry*

The rest of mine don't have major issues like that that they would defend in a conversation. Kim will hammer that idea to death, though.
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[personal profile] jothra 2008-06-10 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
*looks at Coyote*

ahahahahahaha oh god it hurts
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[personal profile] minkhollow 2008-06-10 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
::looks at Cosmo::
While I agree with the sentiment he expresses in my icon, his methodology is... ahahahahaha yeeeeah.
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[personal profile] ostro_goth 2008-06-10 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooooh, shiny -- my subject seems to work! Thanks for using it. That's some really interesting answers we're getting.-

Well, as I said here, the more he hears about the modern world, the more Teja turns out to be something of a Green Conservative that wants to preserve both nature and 'values' -- while I myself have been steadily drifting to the left in the last few years. Especially on the issue of women, he remains dismally conservative. I, on the other hand, am a woman and very much enjoy the liberties he deplores; and I think it's a good thing people get the chance to re-invent and re-define themselves on an individual basis.

Also, Teja thinks that personal happiness should be sacrificed to the greater good if there is any doubt or dilemma - and does not hesitate to demand the same of others! I, on the other hand, think that nobody has the right to demand anything like that from another person, no matter in what context -- it will always be their own decision. In fact, I would go very far to defend that everybody has a right to their own choices, provided they are ready to live with the consequences.
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[identity profile] moofoot.livejournal.com 2008-06-10 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
What an interesting subject to think about. Hrm.

Doc: I actually don't disagree much with what Doc would be willing to defend, and I think that if I were in the time period he comes from, when it's really a matter of you have to defend yourself against corruption and greed, I would be the same way. I'm not bothered by the fact that he carries a gun and he's not afraid to use it (but at the same time, he doesn't LIKE to use it unless he has to) and stuff. Doc is probably the character I would get in the least amount of arguments with.

Dan Evans: He doesn't really have any super strong values or stuff that he believes in that I would protest. He has a stronger sense of religion than I do, but that's not really a big thing.

Athos: Yeah, again, not really anything I'd protest. He's a good honest man and while he has a bit of a drinking problem, not a big deal.

Han: Um. Well. I'm gonna say the spice running, for one. But other than that, there's only a handful of minor issues but again nothing I would REALLY protest, except for the spice running. Oh, and, just in case anyone was wondering:

HAN SHOT FIRST.

And I'm just fine with that. :D
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[personal profile] ostro_goth 2008-06-10 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for finding it interesting -- I feel so very flattered!
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[personal profile] pastrydeity 2008-06-10 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's bad with my ancient types.

The Roman way of life (if you were well-to-do) is kind of repellent to my way of thinking. Antony gets defensive about slavery, because people have argued it with him, and while he may say 'yes, it's bad, but we need it,' he doesn't really think it's that bad. He also thinks that only upper-class women can really be raped (in the sense that it's a crime), and for everyone else, who cares what happens to them? I don't think that shepherdess was really as into it as he was.

Weyland has argued in favor of torture and killing. They're just humans. There's always more of them.

Rebecca believes very firmly in traditional gender roles. Let women be equal as far as education, but they shouldn't be soldiers, men shouldn't tend children, that sort of thing.

Of my non-oldies, the Squirrel is in favor of chaos, supervillain-style. I have to say that I don't agree with turning people into zombies just to win an election.
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[personal profile] ostro_goth 2008-06-10 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
My Teja, and your Rebecca, diverge from our own opinions exactly in the same way, so they get on that well.

I find that amusing.

It would be a bit much to say he's a bit smitten with her, but he respects her deeply...

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