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Annabelle would go home and try to explain if she wasn't, well, dead. They'd probably even believe her. *grin*

As a public service, we present the aforementioned OOM.

Knox tried to get proof early on, being a "verify from two sources" kind of reporter, and failed. Without that proof, he gave up quickly.

Kirk...well, I think that he is sure his friends will think him nuts. Sometimes, he's not sure it's all real.

My other pups are either dead or entered from canons already well-represented. Gibbs in particular knew about the Bar before I ever played him, having met Alanna in OOMs by Heater and Aspen.

Jimmy-boy, hate to break it to you, but it's been an awful long time since I've just thought you were nuts.

Ichigo entered Milliways at a bit of a strange time in his life. Milliways was just one of several weird things happening to him at the time, and by the time he'd gotten used to his new life, he just never thought of telling anybody about the Bar. After all, he doesn't wanna look like a nutter.

An interesting question. I'm not sure either Felix or I know all the in-character reasons. Most relevant, however, is the point in his life where he first encountered the place. It was just before he nearly drowned, and he spent the next while with pneumonia. By the time he recovered, nearly everyone around him was a gruff, fire-aligned stranger who didn't really like him or his people, so it wouldn't have made a lot of sense to tell people.

I suspect that once I start running in-Weyard plots he's going to have to tell at least some people. Fortunately, the first person I expect him to have to convince is able to read people's minds.

I've never played a character from a canon where it would be remotely plausible. At least, not that I can think of.

It's kind of why I hate the first entrance - I always feel like I'm suspending my disbelief when togetting the point where the character will actually go with this crazy magical bar stuff. Unless they're like Elle and already kind of crazy.

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I know the feeling re: first EPs!

...which is why I decided to roll with it one fine day, and have Jeeves almost faint on the spot. It felt rather suitable.

Ben is doing his best to keep Milliways to himself as long as he can. Being a member of the Fantastic Four is to be a member of a family and Ben just doesn't get much to himself. Plus, if (when) they found (find) Milliways, that will mean Johnny will be here and while Ben loves the kid, he loves having at least one Johnny free zone.

H.E.R.B.I.E. has a similar reason though his Johnny is Franklin Richards.

Loki is keeping it to her/himself for similar reasons as well.

Capt. Roland feels guilty about keeping it from Excidium but doesn't know how to explain it to him without seeming a loon. In fact all my other pups have this same problem.

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Scorpius thinks that if he tries to tell anyone, he'll only receive a laugh and a pat on the head for it.

Jasper barely wants to be at Milliways himself.

And Revan? He's too busy to.

Lorne wants his primary watering hole for himself, thank you very much. Just seeing a familiar face there sent him running and not-coming-back for weeks.

Garak like his secrets. He also likes storing information up in his pretty little scaly head that one day might just be used to his advantage. You never know.

Gabriel, well, he's known all along. >_> Shhh. He so has! Ask his publicist! HE SEES EVERYTHING. Seriously, though, to his eye, even Milliways is thanks to the Lord's Creational genius.

Jeeves is still reeling, but unless Wooster deems it suitable to mention the bar back home sweet London, he most certainly won't. Of course he's certain he'd be committed to a mental asylum if he went penning anything down in the infamous book at the Ganymede. So he hasn't. And he won't.

Ray didn't say anything at first because upon his first exit from Milliways he got sent into the animated universe, and he was already afraid of being considered a crazy man. He's been all about the disclosure after that, though.

Belar doesn't bother. He's Belar. He doesn't need to tell anyone.

Whistler did tell people. 'Course, it helped that he emerged from Milliways with Suzi in tow.

Gordon didn't tell anyone during his first few visits because Black Mesa was anal about its security risks and he didn't want to be kicked out of his new job for being a loony. When he returned to City 17 at the start of game 2, he told people about Milliways as soon as the question of 'where have you BEEN for twenty years?' came up, although he described it as a borderworld along the lines of Xen, only more congenial to Terran life and colonized by humans.

Adrian Shephard had better things to worry about.

The Medic doesn't want to have to share the place with Herr Demoman und Herr Scout, so he didn't tell anyone, but when people showed up at random to his world the rest of BLU found out anyway. Oh well.

Mulan was sort of in a hurry to get to the army, where she is currently in basic training, and did not have time to go 'by the way, stablemaster, there's a celestial realm full of barbarians in your backyard'.

Optimus already told the folks at Autobase about Milliways by the time Bumblebee and Ironhide showed up.

And Ellen just... does not really want to deal with telling people about the place and having the crazy people think she's crazy, frankly.

Peter just assumes everyone else already knows about it and they didn't tell him because he's not one of the ~*cool*~ superheroes. :(

Everyone [who should know] in Rad's universe knows about Milliways. Whatever skepticism they ever entertained has been removed once the whole incept matter began.

All of Matrix's friends and family know about this place, or soon will. He doesn't have to mention it to anyone.

Rabastan hasn't told anyone from his old world, because they'd try to kill him on sight, and in Vane, if anyone knows about the Bar at the End of the Universe, Mia will have told them.

Strength and Wheel aren't very interested in telling anyone about Milliways—most of the time the biggest shock is the idea of living tarot cards. Best not to overwhelm the poor soul with even more Earth-shattering ideas.

Who in all the universes would Unicron want to tell about Milliways?

Lilly hasn't told anyone about it, and I'd bet her friends would think she was making it up.

BlackWarGreymon is dead. Enough said.

Megabyte has yet to even find Milliways, so it's not likely he'll be sharing with anyone his Amazing Discovery any time in the near future.

People wouldn't believe that Enzo had met Users and they were ordinary people, let alone the rest. (Also, he ran into Bob his first time in Milliways; he would have gone racing to tell him and Dot, otherwise.)

Yrael doesn't want people from his world knowing about Milliways. They might actually start showing up. *pats him, grinning*

Sunshine knows her announcement of there being a bar at the end of the universe would be greeted with the same "You're crazy and possibly dangerous" as any announcement of her escape with/subsequent alliance with/abilities with vampires. They'd lock her up.

Zelgadiss keeps most things to himself. Milliways is just one of them. Also, he doesn't give much for the bar's chance of survival, should Lina arrive. A high proportion of bars or restaurants that walking force of destruction visits end up... destroyed.

Ryan is dead and therefore has no one to tell. He would have attempted to tell his superiors about the place, had he lived and amassed sufficient proof. All the better for them to take advantage of such a thing.

Everyone Ratchet would tell already knows.

Roxton has told his housemates and demonstrated by bringing people through to hunt T-Rexes.

Spy tells nobody anything. What sort of Spy would he be if he did?

Kédra has not been home yet to tell anyone. He will when he does, though, and belief shouldn't be an issue since Kantri are telepathic with one another.

Man, I need to start putting people in again. Sorry about that.

Angel might have done, if he weren't dead when he got here. As to the spot of pre-canon, he was in a precarious mental state going into that anyway; I think he thought it was best not to push his luck.

Carl and Conflict Diamond both knew about it before they got to Milliways (Carl, as mentioned above, thanks to Whistler bringing Suzi back; Conflict Diamond just asked Moist for the full story behind his sudden change of state.) Conflict Diamond isn't likely to try explaining it to anyone else, though. She has little enough neutral ground as it is; no point in compromising it.

Larry learned well from trying to explain the museum to his son and Rebecca, in the first movie, that Weird Shit is far more easily explained with some measure of proof.

Cosmo wants Marty to find it on his own - and watch him flounder. It'd only last for like two minutes, knowing Marty, but poor Cos has the upper hand so rarely. He wants to use that advantage, and he can't take the shiny tech home.

Cata might tell Sam, at some point, but part of her is still hoping he finds the bar on his own. There's canon allowance for their world being tied to other dimensions, but (a) these things are better swallowed with proof, of which she's not taking the most obvious example (her sniper rifle) home, and (b) to her knowledge, Mizzamir was the only one who thought through the implications of the dimensional stuff. So... no with a side of no and no for dessert.

As for Moist... well. Why complicate matters more than you have to, when you can pass off the results of Cubefall as 'my mad-scientist best friend/employer figured out how to stop it'?

Piotr has mentioned it to a couple! At least handwavily; we didn't pin down who exactly had been told what, unless they were actually apped. But given that they actually lived here for a while -- or, well, Kate did, and Piotr semi-commuted -- it's sort of hard for them not to have mentioned it. Especially given that they're X-Men. "So I found a magical door to another dimension" is kind of like saying "so I weeded the garden yesterday," around those parts.

With Trowa, we handwaved that he'd mentioned Milliways to Cathy, but he'd never bothered to clarify (at least in normal-person terms) that he was talking about a magic bar at the end of the universe, instead of, oh, a cafe he happened across or a phone call with Heero or Duo. If we ever get a Quatre, I figure either the same thing will be true, or (more likely, if the mun likes the idea) he did actually mention it clearly. Quatre is more likely to get clear explanations than Cathy -- sorry, Cathy! -- and also is psychic, which, you know, helps with picking up that stuff. Everybody else he'd mention it to is already in-bar, or used to be.

Lan didn't really get a chance, and keeps secrets like crazy anyway. Will had plenty of chances, but... keeps secrets like crazy possibly even more, or at least keeps the non-magic side of his life very separate from the magical side as much as he can. (Having two of his brothers show up at the bar kind of complicated that one eventually, though! That was lots of fun to play with.) And Alain and Edmund were dead. Which made talking to folks back home kinda hard.

But yeah, it's definitely a thing I've considered with them, and for me it's a significant downside to taking on a character if I can't work out how it would go. I think with a character from a canon where magical bars aren't plausible, my default would be to have the character try to bring other people through without mentioning what they're doing, and consistently fail, and then keep it quiet for fear of being thought crazy. But if you have a character who mentions everything to certain people, or who would be vocal about this stuff anyway, or whose canon allows for this kind of thing... well, then you get into NPCing. Like in Cyborg's OOM!

I just remember that before I played Sam, Andrew Largeman had an OOM where he tried to tell her and she was like "lol okay we both can play the crazy game today" and that was that.

I think my characters tend to view it as a place that they don't want others to be in. For Allana, it's her hideaway spot...yeah her grandparents are there, but they're young and they don't know her yet and they don't have any lectures for her 'cause they're silly and brash. She can come here and hide.

All of them can.

Raph didn't want anyone to know for totally milli-canon reasons.

Mike actually did go home and tell his father and his remaining brothers about the place, if memory serves.

The first Loompa to discover Milliways actually pulled every Loompa he could find into the pocket in an effort to save them from the dreaded WONKA.

Love the Sokka icon.

Clark technically knew for years before he arrived, because Chloe did tell him and Pete about it. They just didn't believe her and then when Clark did later, it was just easier for him not to think about it because it seemed like this big extra thing he didn't want to have to worry about. He doesn't tell other people for pretty much the same reason - he doesn't want them to worry - and because well, there are a few people he'd rather not know about it.

I don't think I've played anyone else who could tell for whom it wouldn't sound like they'd completely lost their mind.

Aluard- Doesn't really talk much

Tim/Amanda would be thrown in an asylm or at least their friends would think they are crazy.

Vicki- She could tell a couple of people in her world who know about the supernatural but really they already have issues. And Coreen who would be the only person that she might tell was here first, in fact Coreen was the one that told Vicki about Milliways and true to form she didn't believe it until she saw it. That coming from a woman with demonic tatoos that is in love with a vampire.

Mia's not only told people at home about Milliways, she's got the guards of the Magic Guild trained to accept guests from Milliways and students of the Guild have written essays theorizing how it can exist in the first place.

Would you believe Homestar if he told you that he had an entire A&W that he can get to by using a blender with a GameBoy in it?

Back when Farley was here, he didn't even believe Milliways was real, so there's no way he could convince others.

At first Will wasn't sure what to do but he also doesn't like keeping secrets and he's always been happy to bring people from Milliways through to Sherwood so now its like oh they're from the magical place Will knows.

Jane and Tom came through together which was such fun to do and she hasn't told anyone else about it. She's considered telling Cassandra but I think a part of her likes having a place that's hers and where she might be able to see Tom more. She hasn't realized yet that he's lost his door.

On Demeter's first visit, she met Hades and random magical portals aren't that weird for Greek gods and Kore-Persephone actually came to Milliways before her mother so its kind of moot.

I think Tumnus has probably mentioned it to at least Lucy but so far, she hasn't been able to see a door. Since again in his canon, magic doors really aren't that weird.

Sameth met his mother on his first visit and I currently have him Bound but I really don't think he'll be telling his sister about Milliways. He likes having a place where he doesn't have to be the Abhorsen in Waiting.

The Pirate King is weird and recently met Frederic in Bar and knowing him, he wouldn't really want to share Milliways with his men. As they say in History of the World Part I, its good to be the king.

Edited 2009-08-24 20:55 (UTC)

For the two chars of mine where it would be an issue--

I think we (Ako, FX and Laini) millicanoned it that a Fox has to find Milliways on his/her own, and is NOT allowed to tell others how to find it. Or else the place would be simply infested with kitsune. Given that 'rule', Milliways may be known about in certain areas of Underhill.

Joris? Joris gets homework on Milliways. *snicker* Konstam believes Joris about Milliways, as Joris cannot lie worth anything, and has brought back various forms of proof. And since the pesky laws about slavery certainly don't apply in Milliways, Konstam is quite pleased that there's a place where Joris can get 'outside' training. Joris just has to write up reports about it, is all.

Because of course the wrong people may hear.

Kate's from Marvel canon. She didn't say anything at first, but when she did, mostly to explain oh btw, I got a boyfriend from medieval times, and we met at a bar at the end of the universe. It's generally accepted now. Her dad and sister don't know though.

Draco eventually had to mention it to his parents (though versions of them also were in the bar too), but since he's met others from his world in the Bar, he figures it's generally just understood.

Aramis and his friends are the only ones who know, and of course, they're not going to say anything.

Pan really doesn't care who knows, or figures most would know anyway.

Nathan, unless he runs into them in the bar, is NOT going to mention it. The man had a hard time admitting he can fly, he's not about to go on about a magic bar at the end of the universe too.

Johnny hasn't mentioned it to anybody back home. Being psychic is weird enough to bring up there.

Momiji totally would have ran home and told everyone (or, at least, the rest of the Sohma Zodiac) if his cousin Kyo hadn't insisted he keep it a secret. By now, even with Kyo gone, part of him has started to really like (in a very guilty way) having somewhere to go where there's nearly no chance of seeing family.

Gilbert's not from a world where that sort of thing would be plausible, everyone around him already thinks he's sort of crazy, and he wouldn't want to share the good food and relaxing scenery with those jerks, anyway. D:

Wizards. Tons and tons of wizards. Flooding Milliway's, studying its magic, trying to find a way to shut the front door permanently for anyone but themselves.

Probably not, but that's what Evil Chicken fears will happen.

Well, and it's not as unlikely as it seems. Look how many unauthorized NPCs know about runecrafting, and Sedridor said he'd only tell a few people he could trust about it.

Medusa did! And her sisters went 'cool', and figured it was a good way for her to go somewhere and calm down without them there - the triplets do try not to share EVERYTHING. Also, the Greco-Roman folks tend to know anyway.

Esfir died. And then was perfectly happy about taking a fabricated backstory to exist in SW!verse. But, you know, Soviet paranoia. She's jumpy about letting other SW!people in Milliways know she's from somewhere else.

Camille is a spy. Also, her boyfriend turns up, and that's enough people for her peace of mind.

Marlowe is in functional exile, and has been for ten years. Also, spy.

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