Jack ([personal profile] themightyspazz) wrote in [community profile] ways_back_room2012-11-07 10:06 pm
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Nothing witty to say at the moment. Personal stuff. You understand.

From [personal profile] leeshajoy:

Talk about an opinion your pup has with which you, the mun, disagree. Why does your pup feel the way they do on this subject? Why do you feel the way you do on the subject? How do you reconcile that while playing this particular pup?
the_gene_genie: (Ashes - Lookin' Good Bols)

[personal profile] the_gene_genie 2012-11-08 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
Gene is sexist. Though, actually, not as strongly as one might think - Sam does say in canon that he 'treats women like beanbags', and there's an endless string of sexist jokes, comments and remarks from his mouth. Having said that, he consistently trusts the female police officers in his department (once he's been forced to give them a chance to prove themselves), and gives credit to them where it's due. In Ashes especially, he treats Alex as an equal in all matters except the physical (er, that is...physical violence. Not the other physical. He'd be more than happy to share a bit of that with her.), and even occasionally bows down to her qualifications in knowledge of the criminal psyche.

So, yeah. Obviously I disagree with his view that women are inherently weaker, though I applaud him for being smart enough to forget that's what he thinks, on occasion. He's not as bad as others in his department, and he holds that view because the vast majority of blokes did. He's simply a product of the times.

As for how I reconcile that when playing him - easy. I don't think about what I think, just what he does. It doesn't bother me, playing people with backward/unpleasant views. I know they're not my own.
innerbrat: (gun)

[personal profile] innerbrat 2012-11-08 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Well.

Lawton thinks that shooting people dead is a valid way of solving problems. I don't really agree with that.
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[personal profile] bjornwilde 2012-11-08 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Only thing I can think of with Ben is his actions during the Cvil War story. I can respect him refusing to fight on either side but leaving the country (though he did come back in the end) is not something I can agree with. I really feel he should have staged protests at the least, you know use some of his public clout for good for once.

Actually, Ben's habit of hitting first and asking questions later is something I can't get behind as well. In fact, I down play it in bar unless he's really not having a good day.

I can't think of any other opinions with my pups I disagree with.
Edited 2012-11-08 14:41 (UTC)
hands_of_blu: (do I have to bite you?)

[personal profile] hands_of_blu 2012-11-08 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Given that RL I tend to believe in the importance of human life and dignity...

*eyes pup*
Edited 2012-11-08 14:30 (UTC)
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[personal profile] dark_dancer 2012-11-08 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
::high-five::
death_gone_mad: Amascut walking away from an explosion like a badass (explode)

[personal profile] death_gone_mad 2012-11-08 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Amascut is another who firmly believes in killing problems dead. She believes this is the most merciful option often times. Given her past this is understandable but it's not something I share with her.

Although, my mother's side of the family tends a bit that way. Farming/ranching family, so it is understandable. My grandfather's solution to most problems was castration, not killing, though.

Another major difference is one that might have come up in yesterday's DE. Amascut would be very frustrated with and vociferous about my tendency to just let things go, even if they are going bad. She would be giving speeches to the effect of "Evil triumphs when good men refuse to act or speak up" all the time if I didn't know how to turn that headvoice off. It is probably something I need to work on, but a headvoice like that isn't going to help me do it.
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[personal profile] haole_cop 2012-11-08 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Danny hates the ocean, and thinks New Jersey is the greatest place in the world. I think he's crazy on both counts, and he thinks I'm nuts to enjoy morning workouts and dislike sweet breakfast foods, but he and I can agree on Mack's Pizza being the best on the boardwalk and also that Longboards really aren't terrible, for a lager.

We also see eye to eye on Hawaiian pizza. Pineapple shouldn't be near my mozzarella and tomato sauce, thanks.

Emma has made a number of very suspect choices in her life that I side-eye at. However, I'm not sure there's much we would really butt heads over, unless it was everything, because we would get stuck in an argument out of sheer habit.

Wolfwood sees the world in extreme blacks and whites, and would be exasperated with my inability to be decisive.

Jack and Caspian and I have no really problematic differences of opinion, though Jack swears a whole lot more than I do, and Caspian is far more polite than I can ever manage to be.
Edited 2012-11-08 16:19 (UTC)
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[personal profile] mnt_raph 2012-11-08 05:35 pm (UTC)(link)
While he's mellowed over the years, Raph is still a One Man Straight Pride Parade. He'd probably still be extra violent about it were it not for the combined efforts of hetero-flexible younger siblings.

Splinter and I don't see eye to eye on the whole "It's Totes Okay To Raise One's Children To Be Weapons" thing.

Ida hates everyone, I don't hate anyone.

The Loompas think it's funny to torture children. While I agree that messing with them every now and again can be amusing, anything that causes actual mental, spiritual, or bodily harm is just right out.

I haven't come up with something for Aang, Bumi, or Mike yet, but the day is young.
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[personal profile] camwyn 2012-11-08 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't come up with something for Aang

I forget, do you eat meat?
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[personal profile] mnt_raph 2012-11-08 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I do!

And as for Mike and Bumi, they're pretty shameless, where as I'm primarily composed of shame.
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[personal profile] katyafeline 2012-11-08 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I play... very very few pups that don't have at least one rather large subject we disagree on. But for all of them, the idea's the same. It doesn't matter what I think when I write them, it's what they think, and their beliefs.

Ace: Likes to blow things up a LOT. Um. Explosions (except, like, fireworks) are not my favorite. Writing her when she's lost her little kitty mind is harder, because... um. I don't believe in eating people for lunch?

Haymitch: is a lot more inherently violent than I'd ever be, and there's a... slyness, ruthlessness that is a product of his life that can be very uncomfortable.

Katya: Our political views do not match, at all. It's canon that the Light was behind the Communist movement, and possibly behind the socialist/nazi rise to power (and were definitely in favor). They do, however, get cranky about how the humans stray away from the ideal, so I can blame the more nasty uses of power on the Dark. But still.

Aaaand I need to get with the packing, so. *flees*
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[personal profile] aleister_author 2012-11-08 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
If it's anything, it would be how comfortable mine are dealing with killers.
Like dreadfully comfortable.

Robo, where he's usually dealing with killers by shooting at them or wrestling their giant attack suit or whatever and Jan who tends to react with full power face blasting, are probably the closest to my reaction.
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[personal profile] jjprobert 2012-11-08 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Jack and Max don't share my opinions on the Church or, well, anything in the field related to religion. But that's a function of their canon being what it is. I also don't think it's come up in a thread yet, but I'll just do my best to ignore my own beliefs when it does.

Alfred and Erik, I don't think there's much, though I don't personally like the solution Alfred found to the Burmese bandit problem he had.

Bean I haven't really played yet (I should get on that). But I'm more likely to face problems of having not read countless works he would have, than ones of opinions. Mainly because Bean tends to ignore opinion, and works from facts and probabilities.
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[personal profile] aberration 2012-11-08 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of my characters are a lot more sly, apathetic, morally loose, or even cruel than I am. Asami and Leslie are the exceptions, though Asami also has her moments. Elle (and in the future: Marceline) simply was not socialized in a remotely normal way, and therefore is detached from a lot of the things I'd have opinions on in part because she was raised in an environment that was pointedly removed from social interaction and any general social landscape, and in part because she has some privileges that come with being a pretty, white, blonde young woman. So she sort of defaults out on things that people who live in the environment she was raised away from would have opinions on, one way or another. But even with that, she's also been more okay with violence (and until fairly recently, torture) than I am. Which is not hard, because I am... not very okay with it.

Manny may not be actively violent (because he sucks at it 98% of the time), but he is also apathetic and sly sometimes to the point of just barely avoiding sleazy. He does have a few noble bones in his ... skeleton, but he's also a lot more willing to break rules or kind of screw over others than I would be. As to particular opinions - while I put him as being a product of the 1930s (even if he has an anachronistic computer), I'd say he's also, again, pretty apathetic and willing to go with whatever flow he needs to in order to achieve his goals. Someone doing something that may have been socially unacceptable in his time is unlikely to get much judgment from him. He and some other characters also make what I think are sexist or borderline-sexist remarks (the type that would be expected in 30s/40s noir), but he also never expresses much surprise or doubt when women around him act as spies/business owners/whatever-may-not-be-considered-traditionally-feminine, so.

One thing I am wondering about Asami is what kind of corporate leader she is going to be. We don't know in canon as of yet, and it may or may not be something that comes up. She doesn't overtly express classism like her father does, and I've developed some reasons for why that is, so it makes me hope that if the issue does come up, she'll be shown as being decent to her employees. But she may have different opinions than I do on labor, is what I'm saying.

I'm also not so much with her on the "easier to ask permission than forgiveness" thing. I have a compulsive need to ask for permission on most things, pretty much to a fault.

Things Leslie and I disagree on: Turtles (I don't find them condescending); the attractiveness of Joe Biden (no offense to the VP, I just don't swing that way); majoring in Potions (Charms all the way!); libraries (though granted I might like them less if Tammy Swanson ran all of them). Among other things I can't think of right now. I'm also not quite as passionate about waffles as she is, though sometimes I can be too fond of sugar.


And I reconcile all this by loving the IC/OOC line. Yay fiction!
Edited 2012-11-09 01:57 (UTC)
will_scarlett: (warrior)

[personal profile] will_scarlett 2012-11-09 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Let's see a number of my pups are far more willing to rely on violence than I am; Will and William. They also have some old fashioned ideas about who people can love, Milliways has helped them to learn better but its not easy for them.

I disagree with Moist's entire moral compass or lack of one.

Demeter also is far more willing to do what she feels is right without considering others more than I am.

I don't have that many things I disagree with for Charles, but his issues of privacy and listening to thoughts is the biggest one. I understand why it makes sense for him, but its uncomfortable.

In terms of Sameth, Tumnus and Jane there aren't any that I can think of.

The Pirate King is another with a weird moral compass and I don't like his belief that he can kiss anyone he wants.
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[personal profile] havetubawilltravel 2012-11-20 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
Clem actually thinks feminism is bullshit and I couldn't disagree more. I can see why she feels that way when you learn about her background but yeah - strong disagreement forever there.

Dixie's used people for sex and other ulterior motives, and I just can't bring myself to do that.

My big point of opposition with Juliet is definitely her competitiveness, but we don't have a lot of opposing POVs.

(I'm the most like Pinkie Pie. IDEK WHY that's true but I am)