Jack ([personal profile] themightyspazz) wrote in [community profile] ways_back_room2013-01-10 09:40 pm
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From [personal profile] battle_butler:

Who do your pups go to for counsel?
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[personal profile] ladysingsthe 2013-01-11 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
Ava: X-23. Bela Talbot.

Puck: Lilly!!

Wendy: Ms. Lacey Thornfield, MM, or Noser depending on the problem.

Aphrodite: Artemis, sometimes.
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[personal profile] cameoflage 2013-01-11 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
Er, well, there's a social action specifically for that in Fallen London (well, more for moral support than for advice), but I'm playing Milliways-continuity Dr Thurlow as not having their other-people's-player-character OC friends around, so I'm caught a bit flat-footed here. I suppose they do have other friends, though. But no one quite so close. For advice rather than a sympathetic ear, they generally just find someone who seems like they know a lot about the subject matter. Might not end up taking that advice, but they like to hear what an expert (or the closest thing to an expert they could get ahold of) would do.

Aradia is most likely to talk to Sollux, who's her best friend and was in one of the red quadrants with her at the past (but we don't know if they were moirails or matesprits), but we don't have a Sollux. Of the trolls in the Bar, she might talk to Terezi (a fellow FLARP player) or Nepeta (her server player).
Edited 2013-01-11 12:39 (UTC)
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[personal profile] bbq_platypus 2013-01-11 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
Most of my pups, for one reason or another, aren't the sort who seek counsel.

Jim has never really been the type to do it. He's asked for help, but never guidance, really.

Borgel is an old man who can take care of himself. When in doubt, he finds the smartest guy in the room and asks him.

Leela would talk to the Doctor. Or, failing that, maybe one of her friends/acquaintances in Bar like Ellen, Sariel, or Corazon.

Kane listens to the intelligence and reports of his lieutenants (though not to the point where it would be inconvenient for him to do so). In any case, they are all under his guidance and his command.

Caius is at the age (and rank) where he gives a lot more counsel than he receives. He has a superior he reports to, but it's strictly by correspondence. Yet from time to time, he'll offer up a prayer to Talos for guidance. Though not very often.

Garyn didn't have many people he could confide in as a child or a young man. Once he reached puberty, he tended to take orders from others more than ask counsel from them. Once he's actually on Vvardenfell, he'll be asking for all sorts of advice. From Caius, for one. Also from Athyn Sarethi, Sul-Matuul, and Nibani Maesa. The list goes on.
Edited 2013-01-11 10:43 (UTC)
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[personal profile] jjprobert 2013-01-11 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I suppose I should answer this one, given it's mine.

Alfred holds his own. As I headcanoned here, in a DE back in December, he used to look to Thomas, and Thomas, as often as he looked to Martha, went to Alfred for another opinion, so the two of them, despite being 'master and butler' had quite an even relationship. When Thomas died, Alfred suddenly found himself without anyone he looked up to or regarded as a true friend. He's made a few since, but there's still no one who was quite like Thomas.
He's since developed a small ritual, where he tends to go down to Thomas and Martha's grave, when he's really uncertain, and then go through things there. He's certain there's nothing mystical about it, he just finds leaving the house helps him thing better and more clearly about these things.

Jack would go to his mother, if he had the option. Otherwise it's the old 'what would mom do' type internal queries. In the future, it'll be Max.

For Max, it's Doris.

Erik tried holding his own, ignoring all advice given to him. It wasn't a good plan, and it didn't go well. These days, his departmental colleagues tend to be 'it', though, so it's still not ideal.

Bean holds his own. At battle school, he never really looks to Ender for counsel, the way everyone else does, but he does look to him for approval, which he eventually gets.
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[personal profile] the_gene_genie 2013-01-11 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Gene - no one. He'd rather slice his own ear off than admit he doesn't know what to do. If a situation comes up when he really doesn't, he just tends to go quiet, and drink, and brood over it.

He's helped by the fact that most of his DI's are gobby gits, who give their opinion freely, despite him telling them he doesn't want it. It works though - he gets to hear what they think, and is big enough to take their suggestions if it seems like they'll work. He'll just never say 'thank you' (except under extreme duress), or admit that he was stuck.

This is all for work matters. For emotional stuff - no one. Ever. He might allude to a state of mind, and expect people to pick up on it, and help, of their own initiative. But he'd never, ever, go up to someone and say, 'I need help/what do you think?'

Bruce (Banner) - he doesn't really have anyone he could ask for advice if he wanted to. Pre-Hulk, it would've been Betty first, and then friends/colleagues. Now, he doesn't really have the option.

Bruce (Wayne) - is the epitome of lone wolf, though he'll occasionally ask Alfred, or Rachel. But then he disappears for years without a word to anyone, so he's certainly not a slave to other people's opinion/wants. In Milliways, it's X. He trusts her opinion because she's the closest person to him, and the only one he thinks really understands. Plus, y'know. He loves her.

Ramon - couldn't give a monkeys about anyone else's opinion, and would as soon kill you as let you tell him what to do.

Harry - friends, parents of friends, professors, members of the Order. He's strong-willed, and tends to disobey instructions and ignore advice when it suits him. But he's not afraid to ask, and listen to, the opinions of others. Whether he acts sensibly as a result is open to debate, but his instincts are pretty good.

Of course, one of the main themes of the books is strength through friendship, so this isn't surprising.
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[personal profile] gavin62truck 2013-01-11 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
It depends on what Tommy might need advice on. If it's something serious, he'll go to Lou or Mickey, his AA sponsor and cousin who used to be a priest. Actually, despite Tommy having problems with the Catholic church, he does tend to seek advice from priests. If it's something benign or frivolous, he might talk to anybody else on his crew, although he would rather not have anybody know he'd asked Mike the Probie for help with something. Likewise, they come to Tommy for advice as well, usually about relationships, and preferably when he's not in a prickly mood.

Lou doesn't ask for help with anything until he's hit rock bottom. And even then he'll try to hide his problems from everyone until it's too late, or they have to force him to accept their help. It's usually Tommy who has to step in first.
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2013-01-11 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Will goes to Robin or sometimes someone in Milliways though he hasn't been doing that as much of late.

Charles is the person that other people come to, which is a role he's accepted. When he needs help, he talks to Iris or Raven or Red or Sallie, Erik's different as neither of them are really asking the other for counsel exactly. Though they do in their own ways counsel and comfort each other, its just not a simple relationship.

William has a hard time going to anyone, but when he feels stuck he'll go to Katya or Bill Pardy.

Jane goes to her sister Cassandra, her brother Henry or her father, which one she goes to depends on the kind of counsel she needs.

Moist tends to not go and ask anyone for counsel or help, he's too used to being on his own, but if truly pressed, he might ask Claudia.

Sameth is another who's not that good at asking for help even though he might know he needs it. He has asked his father for advice but that's still complicated as is his mother and sister. They're a family that needs to relearn how to talk to each other. In Milliways, he'll talk to Kait, if she's around or Diana and older version of Tavi.

Demeter is bad at asking for counsel from anyone, she might ask Kore if pressed but she's a goddess, she usually thinks she can solve it herself.

Tumnus will ask Lucy or Mrs. Beaver.

The Pirate King will ask Ruth but will probably never admit it.
Edited 2013-01-11 14:10 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sdelmonte 2013-01-11 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Kirk turns to Bones or Spock. But you know that.

Knox goes to Vicki Vale, or Lois Lane, for professional advice. To Rapunzel for advice on occasion. And to no one most of the time since he thinks he can handle it on his own.

Cy turns to Raven or Robin most of the time.

Howard isn't the counsel-seeking type, as far as I can tell.

Gibbs would turn to Jack. Or maybe Elizabeth Swann if available. Or the next guy on the next barstool.

Charlie used to go to Prof. Rodor, his mentor and father figure. Of late, it's more likely to be Sallie or Renee.
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[personal profile] inlovewithwords 2013-01-11 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Lois is smugfaced, and says her advice is better than Vale's. Please ignore her, she just wanted her say.
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[personal profile] valiantrebel 2013-01-11 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
ALL THE WRONG PEOPLE.

People he should go to: His wife, his mother.

People he does go to: His father, his uncle.

End result: Betrayal, early death.

HARRY.
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[personal profile] gorgonfondness 2013-01-11 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Mia goes to her mother or Jessica for advice or just to talk.

Lucas probably ends up talking to his party members the most at home, those being Duster, Kumatora, and Boney. In Milliways, he'll talk to about anyone but he seeks out Dinah the most.

Lohengrin goes to Siegfried, which is part of his problem since he's currently mad at the Prince. He wouldn't even dream of it now, but eventually he'll find himself going to Princess Tutu for advice.
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[personal profile] genarti 2013-01-11 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Thor: Loki!

...So uh that's kind of a problem nowadays.

Other answers: his parents (although, uh, Thor only goes to his dad if he expects to like the answer he gets, since disobeying it is fraught), Sif and the Warriors Three, probably some of his other friends/old instructors depending on the problem.

Trowa: Quatre. Heero. Duo, Wufei. Maybe Cathy, although that depends a lot on the problem; he's more likely to just let her proactively talk at him than to ask her questions. Depending on the problem, potentially X.

Trowa is not all that great at asking for counsel, really, but he's way better than he was.

Regan: Gabriel, first and foremost. Some of her other friends -- Anita is the one whose name springs to mind, but she has a bunch of them, and she'd only hesitate to go to them if the matter was really sensitive or personal. Maybe Crowley, although I forget his current FFverse status; maaaaaaybe Prior Fell but probably not. A Shepherd or Companion if it was the kind of problem she wanted to talk out with a stranger rather than a close friend.

River: Oh lordy, so many people. Depends a lot on the problem in question, but the big ones are: Simon, Kaylee, Mal, Inara, Wash, Zoe, Gabriel, Duo, Galadan, Crowley. Also any of the Tet of the Fan-gon who are still alive, which is a thing I really should figure out at some point. Other options include: Aziraphael, maybe X, potentially Edward Cullen, Mary Anne Bell, Susanna Dean, Death of the Endless, maaaaybe Delirium of the Endless, maybe Dream or Destruction of the Endless, maybe Havelock Vetinari, maybe Jack Sparrow, Kate Pryde, maaaaybe Moiraine but that depends a lot, maaaaybe Raven. It's been a long while since she had a dream about Roland, but once I would have put him in the first definite list too. Probably some other people I'm forgetting, and definitely some other people I'm leaving off the list because they haven't been around in years. (Even though I'm including other people who haven't been around in years. Uh. Smokebomb!) Possibly a random person at Milliways!

Clare: Coun...sel...? (Actual answer: Ambriel. Maybe Teresa, although advice isn't really what their relationship is founded on.)
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[personal profile] jothra 2013-01-11 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
BFF GET ADVICE FROM EACH OTHER, CLARE. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.
Edited 2013-01-11 20:47 (UTC)
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[personal profile] genarti 2013-01-12 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
CLARE DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH BFFDOM OKAY

Ambriel should explain it to her.
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[personal profile] bjornwilde 2013-01-11 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ben has pretty much the whole of the Marvel Universe to go to if he needs advise. His default though is: If it's highly personal, Reed. If it's about kids or his place in the F4, Susan. If it's more general or about relationships, Johnny. Fall backs are Jennifer Walters and Mr. Sheck (a pawn shop owner from Yancy Street).

Andrea has no one, but soon will have Kate Daniels.

Jessica talks with Carol and sometimes Logan.

Hank is another with no one, but soon will have Charles and Raven. After the first movie he'll have Alex and Sean as well but I can't see him approaching them until after current canon. ETA: Actually Hank does have people he goes to for advice; Asimov, Niven, Heinland, as well as Einstein, Darwin, Aristotele, Nitcheze and others I am sure I am forgetting.

Val would have Enzo, Weyland and her Uncle Ben if I actually played.

Thalia would have William and Annabeth. Eventually, Percy as well though not for a while yet.

And Palamedes is another that's isolated as being immortal, it's bad idea to get close to people.
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[personal profile] minkhollow 2013-01-11 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Cata and Sam are most likely to go to each other. They'd also consider bouncing things off their respective SOs, and Sam might go to Arcie with a problem, if there were no other option.

Claudia, depending on what the problem is, turns to some combination of Joshua, Artie, Leena and Myka. In Milliways, Ray and Alyx are top candidates.

Apollo NEEDS NO ADVICE. ...Except for when he pesters Artemis for it. He might consider the Milliways-local version of Dem, but his home-local version's waaaaay too smothering.

Imp, I'm not sure. Even though they've broken up he'd strongly consider Susan, if he knew where she was. Especially now that he remembers the music thing, because who else would get it?

Regulus goes to Narcissa. His father's edging onto that list as well, but he's always turned to Narcissa with major problems.

Red: Snow and Charles, lately. It used to be Peter and her grandmother, but Peter's... not an option... and she hasn't tried to mend fences with her grandmother yet.
(Ruby: Ashley while the curse is in effect, Belle after it breaks.)
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[personal profile] baptizemyself 2013-01-11 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
At the moment? No one really. She's still learning to trust people.

Eventually though she'll get a very strong support network of women she can rely on and ask advice from, including but not limited to Black Canary, Oracle, Lady Blackhawk and the Question/Renee.

Not bad for a lone wolf really!
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[personal profile] misslucyjane 2013-01-11 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Bilbo: Gandalf. You could do worse.

Merlin: Gaius. Could also do far worse.

Steve: Used to be Bucky or Orpheus. Now, just Orpheus.
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[personal profile] alexiscartwheel 2013-01-11 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Mary: Anna (her maid), Carson (the butler). She doesn't have friends, and so her servants are the only one who won't judge her :(

Carol: Jessica Drew, of course! Also Steve Rogers, Tony Stark, Tracy Burke (friend and former colleague from her days at the Bugle), and Chewie (her cat). Wanda Maximoff, back in the day, but their relationship changed a lot after House of M.
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[personal profile] bcgphoenix 2013-01-11 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Gaeta: At the moment, Louis.

Olivia: Her sister, Astrid, maybe Broyles if it's counsel of a professional nature; in Milliways, she also might turn to Charlie McGee. Peter used to be on that list as well -- and pretty high up there to boot -- but their falling out has knocked him way, way to the bottom.

Bolin: Mako. Obvs.

The Trickster: Nobody. He's a ~*lone wolf*~.
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[personal profile] agoodmusekickin 2013-01-11 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Raph: Abigail is his first choice, unless it's advice regarding Abigail. Then he goes to Alanna or Adam.

Going to Mike is now no longer an option.

Mike: These days it's pretty much mostly X, though occasionally Guppy. And of course Stampy, her counsel is hands down the best.

Splinter: Sallie. And then if he can some how manage to make it sound like he's the one actually giving counsel, his sons. Though he has been known to have long conversations with Bar and the Wait Rats.

Bumi: It depends on the subject, really. If it's something he thinks he can discuss with his family without causing unnecessary worry, then he'll most certainly turn to Tenzin, Kya, his mother or Zuko. If not...then he has a couple of very well trusted Working-Girls in various port cities he confides in. Every now and again he seeks the counsel of his underlings...er...he means Crew.

Aang: His past lives, Katara, sometimes Sokka...though that hardly ever ends well. Every now and again Toph, though that's pretty much the same as asking Kyoshi.

Ida: No. Just no.

The Loompas: Have each other, which might be part of their problem.
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[personal profile] mnt_mike 2013-01-11 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
SWEET CHOCOLATE ZEUS!
WHAT THE FUCK!?

That...that shit ain't right!
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[personal profile] aaaaaaaagh_sky 2013-01-11 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeaaaaah, I don't know either...
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[personal profile] mnt_mike 2013-01-11 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You know he probably does that.
I mean...Mike does have Raph's animatronic suit from the first live action movie....
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[personal profile] death_gone_mad 2013-01-11 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
at least that's a vanilla instance of ...that.

I've seen things...



I've seen them with my eyes,
I've seen things they're often in disguise,
Like carrrots,handbags,cheese,toilets, russians,planets,hamsters,weddings,poets,stalin,
Kuala lumpur,pygmies, budgies, kuala lumpur
I've seen things,
I've seen them with my eyes,
I've seen things they're often in disguise,
Like carrots,handbags,cheese

/non-sequitor
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[personal profile] seat_five_girl 2013-01-11 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The wrong people!

Well, not all the time.

Technical stuff she goes to Jordan. That's solid if ethically dubious. Which is more of a problem for relationship issues.

Anything you'd go to the cops for outside of Milliways she'd probably try Enzo on. Since he's kind of one and easier to talk to than X.

Magic seems to Amascut Sarah Black. This weights things towards explosions and fire as solutions. So it goes.

Outside of Milliways, Ako really tried her best not to ask for any advice and she generally didn't need to. Everyone in class was more than eager to offer their opinions.

Everyone else!

Robo has, um, built a think tank for that. Ta da?

Tyler might talk things over with Golly or Sam. They tend to take a long view on things though.

Janet asks the other Avengers and occasionally talks over their responses. Oops.

Artemis used to talk with Jade. That leads to the same sorts of issues that Thor has. She's getting better about trusting Green Arrow, the Team, and Red Tornado in no particular order.
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[personal profile] death_gone_mad 2013-01-11 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! That reminds me of something I let Amascut retweet on twitter
"Everything is weak against fire. And if it's not weak against fire, level up until it is weak against fire. Then burn it's ass." #Winning
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[personal profile] aberration 2013-01-11 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Elle goes to everyone. She perpetually has no idea of what she's doing and assumes that everyone else has a much better idea of what is happening in pretty much any situation. And it's probably the case that the longer she's been in the bar, the more likely she is ask things of literally anyone around her and consider their opinion.

But if it's something specific, or concerns something she wouldn't readily share for whatever reason, she'll probably go to X. At least, if she's actively seeking out counsel.

At the moment, Asami goes to her father. She's sort of at a transition period when it comes to her social relationships, but even as such, she doesn't really have friends her age whom she'd readily go to for advice. Her father is the immediate answer. There are also a lot of people in the bar, I think because Asami has the sort of self-confidence where, unless the issue is intensely personal, she'll generally admit that she could use some advice or someone to bounce ideas off.

Leslie likes giving advice a lot more than receiving it, but Ron Swanson tends to be her source of counsel that appears in pivotal moments, followed closely by Ann and Ben.

Manny tends to think himself as a kind of competitive loner, but this really means he'll just hit up anyone for help, but doesn't tie that to emotional attachment. Of course, this is also just the nature of him being a user-controlled computer game character, but he knows a lot of people whom he can comfortably ask a lot of questions.

Marceline is more prone to seek out company than counsel. But my headcanon would be that she bugs Princess Bubblegum when she wants to talking something over with someone.
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[personal profile] jothra 2013-01-11 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Coyote- Raven is always the #1 choice, which is really a terrible idea, no wonder things always go wrong. Past spouses usually got grilled for advice as well. Raguel definitely. Now, probably Nita as well.

Duo- Quatre is probably first choice, since he'd be sympathetic at the least. His commander, if it's work related. Trowa or River if he just wants a friendly ear. X for combat pointers.

Don- Splinter, pretty much always. Mike, when it comes to cooking, chaos, or feelings. Leo for tactics. Raph gives bad advice. He probably has some online only techie friends he consults.

Ambriel- Anyone and everyone. Need reading recommendations? Ask someone who wants to kill you! Confused about friendship feelings! Ask someone who has the worst case of PTSD ever! Puzzled about missionaries? Ask someone who's never set foot in a church. *sigh*
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[personal profile] genarti 2013-01-12 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
I love how both my characters are the ones Duo goes to to not actually get advice. *laughing* They're very different kinds of friendly-but-unhelpful...?

And I love Ambriel. OH AMBRIEL.
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[personal profile] ladyoflorien 2013-01-11 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Leela - [personal profile] eyeeyecaptain - On rare occasions, she goes to her parents on serious matters, Amy (and occasionally other crewmates) on frivolous matters.

Porthos - [personal profile] srspirate - Aramis, with Athos in a close second. He'll also seek the counsel of the other musketeers, and the occasional barmaid.

Grace Augustine - [personal profile] donthidemycigs - Grace doesn't need counsel BECAUSE EVERYTHING SHE DOES IS P E R F E C T.

Renee Walker - [personal profile] whathastobedone - Larry, her boss. She also trusts Jack, though at first their relationship is rocky at best. Her dad, back when they were still talking.

Ray Carling - [personal profile] flickedmethevs - The Guv, and only when it won't make him look like a ponce. Those questions he reserves for Chris. >_>

Lily Bell - [personal profile] maidenofthewest - She has a very strong relationship with Robert; they were each other's anchor, and constant. Now, she seeks counsel when appropriate from whom she deems appropriate, but mostly relies on her own wits.

Zoë Washburne - [personal profile] someonetocarryyou - She trusts the captain unflinchingly, but the first person she goes to is Wash.

Regina Mills - [personal profile] happilyneverafter - Regina has a long, long history of seeking counsel from all the wrong people. Either their advice was self-serving, or they only told her what she wanted to hear. Explains a lot, really.
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[personal profile] inlovewithwords 2013-01-11 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Henry: Season 1: Archie, Mary Margaret, Emma (but that doesn't always work because Emma); Season 2: David/Charming a lot more

Lois: spent a long time as a long wolf. She used to go to Sam. That didn't last. Very rarely she has Chloe or later Oliver. Eventually, Perry White. Once she meets them, she's got Jonathan and especially Martha to turn to. As for their incredibly annoying son, she never relies on him (except when she does) and obviously he would never become her primary source of comfort.

Tavi: While in school, Killian (his teacher) and Miles. Currently Magnus is on the list (this dwindles somewhat post-canon). But basically the human central cast, bar Amara. It depends on what counsel he's looking for, and changes with his age, but: Bernard, Isana, Araris when available, Ehren, Marcus, Max, and of course primarily Kitai.

[personal profile] herr_bookman 2013-01-11 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Autor doesn't go to other people for counsel because he has no friends. Other people come to him, and they'd better not waste his time.
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[personal profile] a1enzo 2013-01-12 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
Depending on the type of counsel, his sister, his dad, his sister-in-law, or Phong. Though Phong may insist that he beat him at Pong first.