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Whew. Tired as a dog tonight.
(Men's basketball, UC Davis versus Hawai'i. We won 89-67. GO AGS.)
List three things that could motivate your character to kill.
(Men's basketball, UC Davis versus Hawai'i. We won 89-67. GO AGS.)
List three things that could motivate your character to kill.

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Asami - Someone trying to kill her; attacks on her friends; large-scale threats to her world. (She doesn't know these yet!)
Leslie -
Insulting waffles and Pawnee in the same sentenceHonestly unless you're a bird or fish that she's shooting, I don't see Leslie ever being motivated to kill someone. Though I guess she did want to bring out the thumbscrews on Greg Pikitis.Manny - Everyone he knows is already dead. (When it comes to Sprouting, he's not terribly upfront about it, but for lack of a better way to put it, he will Sprout someone who needs Sprouting.)
Marceline - Hunger; boredom; general need to prove her evilness. Though for most of this, she just talks a big game.
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b) money
c) you hurt one of her people
(The first one is also subdivided into 'the situation required it')
...Romanoff's a very uncomplicated woman, really.
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Felix: If his opponent presents a direct, credible threat to (in order) his world, his friends, or himself... Yeah, we'll just call that his three.
Kain: If Cecil or the King wants him to; if he really doesn't like his opponent, and doesn't know of any good reason to leave them alive; aand I can't come up with a third one at the moment.
Fluttershy: ... ... ...
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... ... If one of her carnivorous animal friends is hungry? Though even then, she wouldn't kill any sentient.
Cranky: If they're really, really annoying. Like, more than Pinkie Pie.
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1) Honor
2) You were in my way.
3) Honor
4) You were trying to kill me.
5) Honor
6) You lost.
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(Okay, this is not 100% completely accurate, but... really, it's close enough for jazz.)
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Thor is now post-movie, and thus good for EPs whenever I feel like it! :D And for abuse of millitime, too, given that. So I will look for a Harry EP, and
do you lookdammit just Harry's icons are contagious. WE WILL LOOK FOR EACH OTHER OKAY.I have Becca in town this weekend, so I will probably not EP him until next week sometime, but I could do that! Or sneak Thor into Harry's next, whatever's easiest.)
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(I couldn't help myself.)
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Tom does kill, but not lightly. He quiets zombies as part of his "job." He does so, however, with a lot more respect to them and their previous lives than other bounty hunters and/or First Night survivors might. He'll also kill threats, living or undead, if there is absolutely no other choice.
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I've got three first person shooter protagonists, one online multiplayer shooter character, two distinctly shooty FPS/RPG companion characters, the protagonist of the Iliad (I refuse to side with the Greeks kthx), Santo, and Ray.
Unless you're counting the time early on when he went to Andrew Wells' world and fought the demon army invading the Buffyverse, about the only way 'Ray' and 'killing' get into the same sentence is if someone took him out fishing on a party boat in Sheepshead Bay and he pulled in a delicious, delicious flounder.
And as far as Santo goes, I need to watch a few more of his movies first before I can say. Might have an answer by this afternoon, as I have to go to the DMV and I brought a copy of Santo contra Blue Demon en la Atlantida and Santo y Blue Demon contra Los Monstruos to keep me busy.
Edward Cullen
2. Bella
3. Alice
Something happening to any of the three of them, would probably snap his control.
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2. Get him mad enough. Mark's temper has a fraying point. Push him hard enough, and he beat you to death. He is, after all, his father's son.
3. Get him desperate enough. If the odds are bad enough, Mark will stop holding back. Canonically, that ends up with him on the ground, bleeding badly, and the other party very dead. Mark generally gets better. The other party, not so much.
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Will: Threaten anyone he cares about, hurt someone in Nottingham, work for the Sheriff
Charles: Its really hard to imagine him ever killing, he's a dedicated pacifist. He'll incapacitate someone first though his methods vary from putting them to sleep to taking over their mind to accomplish something to freezing them or time. I still don't know quite how what he did in the movie works. Though others will kill for his sake which bothers him, but its not a choice he would make. Even at his own lowest point, he doesn't move towards violence.
William: In his canon, he almost killed Ben Wade and he shot various people but never to kill. I think if would require threatening his family and not having any other options. He's comfortable with violence but killing is a line he hasn't crossed yet in his world. He has in Ellen's world where the rules are different.
Moist: Nope, he won't kill, he will runaway when violence becomes an option. If he's going to hang it will be for being a thief not a murderer. I don't think Urquhart ever quite understood just how dedicated he is to avoiding violence.
Jane: She's another that I really can't see killing in any situation. She's been socialized against it.
Sameth: For his background, he's not that comfortable killing. He'll fight with no problem but sending someone into Death, that's much harder for him. He'll fight the Dead but they're different and scare him a lot on their own terms. I played with this when I wrote him into a Hunger Games AU. He's from a family of people who are known for their destruction and he's a creator.
Demeter: Hurt Kore, hurt people and land she cares for and pray that she kills you as that won't be her first choice. She's cruel enough when angered to find other horrible options, just ask Ramon.
Tumnus: I can't think of a situation where he would kill. There are Fauns who are warriors but he's not one of them.
The Pirate King: Well, he's a pirate though a compassionate one, but in the heat of battle, I think he wouldn't think too much. His canon is odd, but he's still a pirate.
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1.) Attempting to destroy and/or take over the world with a measurable degree of success
2.) Bringing serious harm to her family and friends
And that's about all I can come up with for her.
For Lucas:
Well, even with all the fighting that happens in the Mother/Earthbound series, the protagonists almost never kill anyone or anything. At the end of battles, most foes will "become tame" or "stop moving" or something like that. So he won't really kill anyone until he accidentally destroys the world.
For Lohengrin (The Knight) :
1.) Being the Raven
2.) Bringing harm to Prince Siegfried
3.) Messing with Elsa and, eventually, Tutu
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Mercy? Compassion? Justice?
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Jess: 1) A clear and present threat to innocent lives, 2) A clear and present threat to her life, 3) Will it prevent either 1 or 2 in the future? (She tries her best and wants to be able to look her BFF in the eye, but Jess was born and raised an assassin.)
Hank: I'm having a hard time with this one. All I can think of is an immediate threat to innocent lives or his team.
Andrea: 1) A clear and present threat to innocent lives, 2) A clear and present threat to her life, 3) Eight years of physical abuse.
Thalia: Well if you are a monster in her world, breathing? Otherwise I don't know.
Val: 1) A clear and present threat to innocent lives, 2) A clear and present threat to her life, 3) I don't know.
ETA: I'm sensing a theme here...
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For both Jack and M, it's basically the same thing: someone threatening national security, someone threatening their own life, someone threatening their family/other agents.
The main difference is how they do it. M does it by proxy, from her office, either by sending a double-O to take care of a situation or giving the order herself remotely. She could kill someone herself, though she's never been the greatest at marksmanship or hand-to-hand, but then she's also never really been a field agent in the sense that, say, Bond has.
Jack, on the other hand, is up close and personal. He has killed with his bare hands (or teeth, for that matter) and can do it again if necessary.
And the "in the interest of national security" reason above? That also includes their own people. If they absolutely have to, they'll take a shot at a friendly, if there's no other way out. Though in both cases, they'll do absolutely everything to make sure that doesn't have to happen, and in both cases, it's the hardest call they'll ever have to make.
GO AGS!
Someone is hurting Skellig.
Someone is hurting Yulia.
Haymitch: Someone tried to take away his liquor.
Someone tried to take away his knife.
Someone startled him/woke him up too suddenly/etc.
Balthazar: You're Morgana.
You're Morgana.
You're Morgana (there's so many other, more creative ways of dealing with non-Morgana enemies).
Ace: You went after Spoon (though Spoon will probably handle it just fine)
You went after the Wells (though they'll probably handle it just fine)
You went after her kitten (though really you might want to also watch out for the pissed-off werewolves)
Bones: Direct and obvious threat to the Captain
............... Direct order? I guess. Um.
............... sooooo. Good luck with that.
Oswin: Someone threatening her friends.
Someone threatening herself.
... She loses that battle with the Daleks, then all bets are off.
Glorfindel: ... really? The only way to avoid violence is not be a threat to him and his, and to not be associated, in any way, with Sauron or Morgoth.
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River: If she judges you an ongoing danger to innocent bystanders (or innocent non-bystanders) who needs to be taken out for everybody's good; River is a-okay with being judge, jury, and executioner. In self-defense or defense of people she cares about.
...Or if she gets triggered into berserking. It's still possible, although most of the people who knew how are dead now, I think.
Trowa: If you try to hurt his friends, or in self-defense. If war starts again. If he's preventing war from starting again.
In all of this he won't necessarily kill, if mercy seems a better option because of either morality or political/PR calculation. But he'd be willing to.
Clare: If you're a demon.
Or if you try to hurt Teresa and for some reason Teresa hasn't already killed you herself. Possibly in defense of an innocent human; if you're human yourself, it depends on a lot of factors whether she'd actually go for the kill, and one of those factors is Milliways.
Regan: Oh man. Defense of her family or closest friends; defense of a child. Self-defense, if it really came down to it, but she'd be quicker to hit that emotional point in defense of someone else.
Regan is not emotionally prepared for killing. Unlike most of mine (who are ninjas/soldiers/warriors/etc) she would fall apart right afterward.
Thor: See Harry Percy's list!
He is working hard these days to keep because I was bored and seeking out a battle seemed awesome off that list -- I mean, it's still kind of on there, but it's only allowed to be a contributing factor in anything lethal, not the main reason. (It's 100% fair game for a friendly fight, though.)
Edel/Uzura: ...I can't even.
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Although if Edel shanked someone, you could argue back and forth about how much that was Edel killing someone versus Drosselmeyer doing it and happening to use Edel as the tool; it'd depend on the details of the situation. But yeah, all of this is accurate.
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- Nothing
Bumi
- threaten his family
- threaten his crew
- threaten balance to the world
Raph
- threaten his family
- being given a compelling argument for the killing of a specific person
- being between him and his mission objective
Mike
- be an actual danger to his family
- be an actual and continuing obstacle to a mission objective
- surprise him when he's not expecting it and he over-reacts
Splinter
- Self defense
- threaten his family
- if honor demands it
The Loompas
- Self defense
- threaten their livelihood
- a day that ends in Y
Ida
- Threaten the safety of HQ
- Threaten the safety of The Middleman
- Pressing the large, red, candy-like Kill Switch she has between her shoulder blades.
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Exactly what it says, not what you thought it was at all.
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Erik and Max, neither of them have it in them to kill someone in cold blood. And, to be honest, the don't have the ability to kill someone in hot blood, unless you went out of your way to force them to do it.
Alfred: Threatening his charge. Orders, though he formally retired from that some time ago, it does still apply.
Bean: Threats on his life. Threats to his family. That's about it.
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Borgel - Oh, goodness. Nothing at all. He's just a peaceful old man.
Leela - Threatening the Doctor would be the quickest way to die by Leela's hand. She would also not hesitate to kill in self-defense, or even as a matter of honor. Really, there are lots of things she'd be willing to kill for. It's not something she's uncomfortable with.
Kane - Ascension. However many millions need to die in order to bring it about will be worth it. He needs no other reason.
Tuco - Whatever you've got on you.
Caius Cosades - In service of the Emperor, there is nothing Caius won't do.
Garyn Balvadares - In Cyrodil, he fought for coin. He killed a bandit or two in his time. In Morrowind, once he joins the Legion, he'll be willing to kill on orders from a superior. He will spill a great deal of blood in his fight against Dagoth Ur and the Sixth House. And later still to consolidate his power, right wrongs, and serve the people of Morrowind.
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2. You're trying to kill her
3. You're trying to kill someone else.
Yrael: 1. You threatened or tried to harm him
2. You threatened or tried to harm his friends or home
3. He was bored.
Zelgadiss: 1. You tried to kill him or his friends
2. You're trying to destroy the world
3. He perceives you to be hindering him in his search for a cure
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1) You're in the enemy force he's at war with.
2) You're trying to kill him or those he loves (and he has no choice).
3) You're trying to screw with Alera (and he can't think of a better way to use you than dead).
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Gus is pretty much not likely to kill anyone. If he did it'd be either 1) self defense or 2) an accident. And the guilt would eat him alive.
Michael on the other hand has a complicated relationship with killing and a significant amount of blood on his hands. 1) There's no other way to accomplish an objective. 2) Someone innocent is in danger if he doesn't. 3) They're trying to kill him.