ways_back_room | DE: Cue Marilyn

One of the upsides of playing a fake real person is that Harry Percy has a birthday, and it is next month! So, May 20, I'm just saying, watch out, world.

hmmm.... My two present pups are too old to have relevant birthdays but my one potential may not. I'll have to watch the answers to this DE.

Or I could make it a movable holiday since she was most likely born in a timey-wimey-wibbly-wobbly-Milliways-type-place.

Edit: There was a time I was considering giving April 20 to Amascut because of various tragedies and internet culture, but I thought it was distasteful. She's too old. Maybe she had a special day or two when she had a larger following but eh...

Her aliases probably have birthdays, though. Hmmm.

Edited 2013-04-30 19:55 (UTC)

This is something I've paid varying attention to with my pups.

For Will, I knew I wanted him born near Halloween, it made sense to me when I was putting his character together and chose a date for him.

Charles and Jane each have dates from canon and real life which made that fairly simple.

Moist, William, Tumnus, the Pirate King, I haven't really thought about it for them.

Sameth's birthday has given me such headaches because its a key date in canon but canon is vague about timing. All the timing is done by in canon events and general references to the seasons, which is unhelpful. Saph and I discussed it and finally chose a date.]

Demeter's a goddess and again, I wouldn't know where to start with her.

Edited 2013-04-30 13:18 (UTC)

I arbitrarily (or if it wasn't, I don't remember anymore) picked September 7, although that's actually meaningless since sprites operate on a completely different timescale and he only has what he would consider a real birthday every five Milli-years. Everything in between is him taking cheerful advantage of human expectations for the sake of presents and cake.

Of course, that isn't even his original birthday, because of the whole clone thing; they calculated him a new one after he was restored from backup to fit his actual aging.

Yrael doesn't have a birthday, but he knows about when in the year he first came to Milliways, and he chooses to celebrate that.

Zelgadiss.... I haven't chosen a birthday for.

For Sunshine, I chose midsummer's day, June 21st, which I felt was fitting.

I picked Jan. 6 for Tom Riddle way before his canonical birthday appeared in Half-Blood Prince. But I was close to Dec. 31! I knew he had to be a Capricorn. I didn't realize that day is Epiphany, but it worked rather well, ha ha.

Ingress' birthday of May 25 was picked because it's the halfway mark between my birthday and the original mun's birthday, and we thought that was nifty.

The others I am a bit vague on specifics... I think Bela is Sept. 12. She's a Scorpio.

Thor: Nope! I haven't entirely even worked my head around how I want to characterize Asgardian conceptions of time and age, except that they're very different from human ones. So no, no birthdays for him, and if Asgard even celebrates them it wouldn't match with Earth's calendar anyway.

River: August 9. When we were coming up on Academyplot back in 2005, I realized that I hadn't ever given her a birthday, and was coming up on a year since I'd brought her in, and that she was a character whose friends would have celebrated it. Mind you, I could have handwaved, but it seemed more fun to onscreen it -- especially since she was turning 19, and embroiled in a lot of Dark Tower stuff at the time. So I picked a date in the then-near future, and one with number symbolism involved, because 9 was a symbolic number for Milliways DT stuff.

Regan: Nope, or if I did pick it I've forgotten. It hasn't really come up, although obviously she has one.

Trowa: August 21. That's his current official birthday; neither he nor I have any idea what his actual date of birth is, except that I think he's probably older than the other Gundam pilots within their "more or less within a year of each other" age range. According to his official ID, like Duo he's a couple of years older than his estimate of his actual age, because you have to be 18 to work for the government even if you were a 15-year-old Gundam pilot, and it's not as if either of them had any official record of their existence before.

ICly, Cathy picked the date, when he needed to put something on an official ID. (And she felt he needed a birthday to celebrate, because everybody does, come on, Trowa. Trowa puts up with this tolerantly.) OOCly, I wanted him to be a Leo, because there are like six canon reasons that makes me laugh. (I'm easily amused, okay.) I think August was nearly over when I realized that, so I picked a date that would let me bring him in on his birthday because, again, I'm easily amused.

Clare: Nope. If it's a thing her world celebrates, she's forgotten when hers is, anyway. She'd be politely confused if you tried to make her find it important, most likely.

Edel/Uzura: Nope. It's not relevant to Edel. Uzura has one, if you kind of squint at the definition, but time in Kinkan Town is so weird anyway that I have no idea what it is.

(Past characters: Will Stanton's is canonically December 21. Alain I picked one for, although I don't remember what it was; I think my main concern there was spacing it out from his friends', and it might've been February or something? Lan I don't think I ever picked one for, or Millicanoned anything about it being a thing Malkieri care about. Piotr probably has one on record in a Marvel database somewhere, and I don't remember if I ever did anything with that. I can't remember if I or Edmund's previous mun set anything for his, either.)

Edited 2013-04-30 13:39 (UTC)

After I posed this question, I realised picking birthdays for most of my current roster is pretty much impossible. That said, I've never picked birthdays based on the actor/PB; it depends on what I feel like suits the character.

Claudia's birthday is March 11th because her sharing a birthday with Douglas Adams amuses the hell out of me. (Canon will possibly Joss me on this point, but canon's also still running on the delusion that she was 19 in season 1, which really does not fit the rest of the timeline.)

I gave Regulus a birthday in May ~~(but I can't remember if it's the 8th or 9th or 18th...)~~ (ETA: Or I can check the old journal! May 8th. Still works.) in the first game I played him in, just because that felt right, and that definitely stands here. I should figure out which one it is and maybe send him home for his birthday. XD I have no idea if JKR's tried setting a different date.

As for everyone else:

Apollo is a god. Your argument is invalid.

Imp's operating on a 13-month calendar that I don't feel like grappling with long enough to pick a birthday for him. I can't remember if I gave him one in the Disc RP or not.

Red's operating on a different calendar, I'm pretty sure, and if the OUaT show writers can't be arsed to MAKE A FREAKING MAP OF THE ENCHANTED FOREST, I doubt they'll ever explain the calendar either. As for Ruby, I haven't tried to give her a birthday; who knows if it was even a factor in the curse.

Cata and Sam are also operating on a different calendar (one that... still has something called Yuletide... but that's another matter). Further, for Sam it's canon that he has no idea when his birthday is, exact year included; his mother was too brain-addled to pass on the relevant information, and it's not like he could (or wanted to) ask his father. He's never bothered picking a day to mark as his birthday, I don't think.

Edited 2013-04-30 13:39 (UTC)

I do wonder how long a map of an Enchanted Forest would remain valid. I mean, I don't know OUAT at all, but a lot of such places are internally variable.

I think OUaT's particular Enchanted Forest has more stable geography than, say, Wrede's Enchanted Forest. Mostly my frustration comes from the political end of things; you have like eight different kingdoms, no real idea of who rules what next to who else (which is why I say Red's so deep in the forest she has no idea who's claiming that bit) and no shape of how big the overall land is. Which gets important when you want to go from B to C and then double back to A, before sunset, WHILE STOPPING FOR PLOT-ADVANCING NAPS.
Got a little frustrating, that.

And if things weren't confused enough, let's throw in another kingdom that seems to be China-like just out of the blue. Oh and ogres.

Joshua's is July 14th because it felt right somehow that he'd have a summer birthday. Also it works considering some headcanon backstory that I have about his parents now.

Helena's is the same as the historical HG Wells (September 21), which I think is mostly what canon goes for with her. Also, did you all know that if you try to put a birth year in DW as 1866 it says it's an invalid birthday? Yeeeeeeah. Oops.

You can tell just how much I care about Felix's birthday by the fact that I've recognized it all of twice in the seven-plus years since I started playing him (though there was that three-year gap). January 4 seems to be the more recent date, and the one that's post-reboot, so I'll go with that. If I had a rationale, I don't remember it at all. (I seriously doubt canon will ever address this point, even if it continues; literally the only thing we know about their calendar is that they count years and have weeks.)

Fluttershy... I don't know. Pinkie-mun has suggested sometime in May... The fandom seems to have "Harmony Days", a bi-monthly recognition of the Elements of Harmony, and Fluttershy's (Kindness) is April 6... All I know is that she doesn't feel like a winter birth to me.

Kain has no birthday. Kain needs no birthday! (Well, he probably does. But he doesn't really want it recognized.) I really ought to do more with him; I don't feel inclined to drop him, but I've only brought him in a few times.

I chose Lucas and Lohengrin's birthdays completely at random. Lucas is September 12 and Lohengrin is January 13. Mia's birthday was also sort-of random but had more to determine it: I chose to make her first entrance her 17th birthday. So Mia is February 9.

I'm sure someone's done the canon math to figure out when Roku died, and then the round about time that Aang was born. I wish I could remember were I saw it, but I could have sworn that I read somewhere that the next Avatar in the cycle is born within a week or so of the passing of the previous incarnation. And not necessarily on the same day.

Bumi has a birthday, but I'll be damned if I know when it is.

I'm not entirely sure when Splinter's birthday is either.

But Mike and Raph I know.
All four turtles mark the passing of another year on New Years, but they have personal celebration days of their choosing through out the year.

Raph chose December 21, the longest night of the year.
Mike chose both April Fool's day and Halloween.

So I guess I need to ask you - have you fixed a date for Aang to have died on?

I know it happens the night of a full moon, but short of that...not so much.

Sooo, yeah...not so much.
I'm still trying to remember where the hell this "week" between death and rebirth thing came about.

Um...when were you thinking about Korra's birthday?

Never heard about a 'week' thing - although I just wiki-clicked through to Bardo and Tibetan ideas of rebirth that suggests it doesn't have to be immediate, but it also doesn't have to be a fixed time frame - up to 49 days? So some leeway!

I have no preferences for birthdays really. Although I could see her being born at the height of summer.

Aah summer in the South Pole.
Where you'll only MOSTLY freeze.

Winter in the South Pole.

Where you have nothing to do except conceive Avatars.

(Hubba hubba.)

Alyx's birthdate is November 19, 1998. Cam and I agreed on the year based on the Millicanon timeline she'd set up for the Half-Life universe, and once that was established it seemed sensible to pick the release date of the original Half-Life game.

Twilight's birthday is April 18, a date I picked more or less at random.

It's common fanon that Princess Celestia's birthday is the summer solstice. Therefore, I decided that Luna's birthday is on the winter solstice, December 21.

Vanellope's "birthday" would be the date her game was plugged in, but canon gives no hint as to when that was, so I'm leaving it a mystery for now.

Gordon and Adrian both had years for their birth determined by canon, within a certain age range- Gordon is canonically 27 at the start of HL 1, and Adrian is 22 at the start of OpFor. We know the events of the first game begin on May 15th-16th of a year between 2000 and 2009, because Valve used the year '200-' in a number of pieces of material and Shephard's diary includes 'they told us to be ready in case it happens tomorrow' on the 15th (depending on what document you're reading, it's either March or May); Leesha and I settled on May for the month and 2001 for the year, which meant Gordon was born in 1974 and Shephard in 1979. I think I picked January 12th, 1974 for Gordon's birthday based mostly on the Chinese horoscope options and what they could be construed to say about his personality. Shephard's is in April sometime because I'm lazy and didn't really care what day it actually was.

Ellen's birthday is canonically July 13th, 2258. You have to have the G.E.C.K. game editing package for the PC version of Fallout 3 to determine this, since during the birthing scene you don't have access to a Pip-Boy, but it's on the Fallout Wiki so I'm good with that.

Ray's is October 15th, 1974 because I used the Ghostbusters: Legion canon for him. Legion takes the events of the first movie and puts them sometime in the early 2000's rather than 1984. It was easier to make Ray born in the same year as me in order to keep my references straight for him.

I tend to try for canon birthdays but sometimes that can be hard to find.

Ben shares his birthday with his creator, Jack Kirby, to wit, August 28th. I don't know if that is Marvel canon but it is for my Ben.

Thalia has the winter solstice from canon as her birthday, December 21st.

For Val, Jessica, Hank, Andrea, and Anton, I just picked the day I made the journal since no canon birthday is given. Same with Quinlan, though in his case he's on a different calendar all together.

One-and-a-half of my characters have canonically-established birthdays: Rukia's birthday is given in a datafile at the end of the first BLEACH tankôbon, and of course The Cheat's The Cheatday is known to be celebrated on the one date they're pretty sure it isn't.

I gave Hiro and Jennifer birthdays in September because Sailor Mercury.

I went with January 6 for Ryûk, for reasons I can't even remember anymore.

I said April 1 for Strong Bad, but I don't take that very seriously.

I put Michael's 1900 birthday on January 1 as an homage to Warren Ellis' "Century Babies" concept, only to discover from a Chinese horoscope search that he was more likely born after the lunar new year. (I'm thinking of moving the date to March 23, because N-Day.)

Back when I played Obi-Wan, I compromised between giving him Alec Guinness' birthday and Episode IV's launchday.

For Ralph, I subtracted 30 years from the theatrical release of his canon, then accidentally added a day because I didn't actually see it on opening day.

Néo's birthday is another compromise, in hir case between those of Nao Tachibana, hir PB, and Nene Mukai, the actually-older professional loli who plays hir younger sibling.

For Mel and Harth, Amy and I settled on Feb 15, because it's exactly halfway between our own birthdays.

Dinah has a canonical birthday - it is April 10th.

Dick has TWO canonical birthdays - November 11th for comics!verse, December 1, 1996 for Young Justice.

Mac's might be the 3rd of May (historical birthday) but as nothing that survived as historical record is actually accurate in terms of canon, that might not be true. He might pretend that's his birthday, but it's just as likely change next year.

I have no idea what the birthdays for Will, Marguerite or Renee are. I'm not sure either of them think it a big deal.

Teresa and Death don't celebrate birthdays.

Korra - well, it depends when Aang dies, really.

Basically, it's enough trouble for me to celebrate birthdays of real people, I don't really bother with my pups.

Kirk has a semi-canonical birthday, March 22, 2233 - March 22 is really Bill Shatner's birthday, and the studio has long used it for Kirk even though it doesn't ever appear in canon. (The 2233 is more or less canon, since nuTrek seems to take that into account.) I have marked Jim's birthday once or twice, but he doesn't really like birthdays. Ask Bones. :)

My other pups don't seem to have any canon birthdays. And I have never felt inspired to give them any. In fact, Charlie is an orphan and has no way of knowing, and Gibbs is from an era when it was probably easy for his parents to not pay attention to the date if he wasn't born on a holiday. And Knox is actually the kind of person who actively avoids talking about his birthday. He doesn't trust anyone not to use the day as an excuse for a silly prank or an embarrassing party.

Mark's is in late April. His birthday is canonically celebrated during an April issue of Invincible, and with the timing of the Omni-Man betrayal, it felt like late April. My internal dialogue with the character says it's around April 21-23, or something around then. (It's not 4/20; that's my best friend's birthday.)

BSG uses a different date/calendar system from ours -- and, of course, it never gets explained in canon. So I totally made shit up, did some vague handwavy okay-maybe-he's-kind-of-a-Libra, and said that if Gaeta's birthday was translated to the Gregorian calendar, it'd be September 25.

I...am actually not sure for everyone else! I haven't picked one for Olivia, the Trickster's birthday dates before the creation of the Earth if you're going by certain belief systems, and Bolin was probably born sometime in the spring (since, canonically, that's when a high number of earthbenders are born).

Tommy's birth date is December 19, 1960, which is what it said in his FDNY file on the show. Yes, I paused the scene to get this information.

Hey, I copied an obituary off a screencap once. Whatever works!

I also get info off the gravestones of dead characters. Thanks, show!

Oh, I know all about that. *glares at the lack-of-timeline for Christina*

There may be a way to approximate Henry's birthday. I just haven't yet.

Some version of canon somewhere (not necessarily SV) has Lois' birthday as August 17th. I don't remember which, though.

Shockingly, there's reason to believe I can at least pick a canonical season Tavi was born in. (Useful information out of Butcher? The horror!) Mind, this is assuming that Carna has approximately Earth-like rotational, lunar, solar, and seasonal cycles. I feel safe with this assumption because Butcher is lazy. Anyway, Tavi's dad proposed in about September (on the 'harvest moon,' a game I am currently addicted to), ten months-ish before Tavi is born. Tavi is probably born in between late June and early August. I haven't picked a day.

I'm tempted to say early August just for the joke.

I'm tempted to say early August just for the joke.

Do it. He's got enough referentiality built into him already, he needs that one. (Seriously, I legitimately choked the first time I saw Roman!Octavian's full name-title-whatsits after reading the Alera books.)

Actually, I'm an 'I, Claudius' fangirl. Knowing Augustus was born Gaius Octavius/Octavian/Octavianus/whatever was part of how I caught Tavi's spoiler almost immediately. (Also part of why I fell in love with the books. Giant Roman pun!)

Okay, done. Sep propses on September 23rd (Augustus' birthday) and Tavi's born August 1st. Sweet.

Elle's birthday is November 6. I sort of arbitrarily decided that early on, I think because Jamie introduced her to Guy Fawkes' Day and I just made her birthday the day after it.

Leslie's is canonically January 18.

And then Manny just doesn't care anymore, because being born doesn't matter much when you're dead. Asami and Katara both come from a world that doesn't use the Gregorian calendar, but I imagine Asami as being born in autumn, and Katara... during the time of year in the South Pole when the sun is up longer. Hiccup also comes from a society that doesn't use that calendar, but I imagine he was born during the months in Berk when it hails. These are all pretty much because-I-feel-like-it decisions.

(Oh I forgot Marceline. But in the comics she treats the Nightosphere as her "home," so it may also not have a normal date.)

Edited 2013-05-01 01:03 (UTC)

Bilbo's birthday is September 22nd by Shire reckoning.

Lydia's is in late March, after the Worm Moon. (I love your ridiculousness, Show.)

The Ice King has forgotten his birthday. He probably celebrates it whenever he wants cake.

Merlin doesn't have a canonical birthday in the series or in legend, it would appear, so I'm guessing some day with meaning like winter solstice or midsummer's day.

Steve's, of course, is the Fourth of July.

I *had* picked out a birthday for Jack, and then the series went and Jossed me with some webisodes. Jack's birthday is Feb. 18th, 1966.

Everyone's is headcanon except for Pinkie's:

Clem's is September 12th, 1969.

Dixie is a Fourth of July firework, born 1868

Juliet's birthdate isn't stated, but is celebrated in the episode "In For a Penny, In For a Pound." So I went for the Episode's airdate, November 30th, 1979.

Pinkie's is canonically May 3rd, as determined by various acts of Brony/Pegasister wizardry involving date counting and A Friend Indeed.

Edited 2013-05-13 05:21 (UTC)

DE: Cue Marilyn

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