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bjornwilde ([personal profile] bjornwilde) wrote in [community profile] ways_back_room2013-12-11 06:04 am
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 And the last of the series, from [personal profile] alas_a_llama :
What random, strange or out-there theories do you have about your canon? The kind of things that would go on the Wild Mass Guessing page of Tvtropes.

And what the hay, even if you don't have theories, make up some fun ones!
Since this has potential for spoilers, feel free to use white text or link to another entry for your answers. =}
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[personal profile] 1nv1nc1ble 2013-12-11 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
There is dialogue among the Viltrumites later in the series that seem to indicate that Mark may be Special. I think he's going to end up being their Messiah/King Arthur/Moses Reborn sort, to lead them into a Golden Age. Given their a bunch of Niezschean, Imperialist mass-murderers, I don't see Mark being too fond of the idea.
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[personal profile] aaaaaaaagh_sky 2013-12-11 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The main character's father never explains why he's the only human in Vault 101 who has a faint but detectable accent, among other things. My two main theories about him are that he originally hailed from the Commonwealth (post-nuke Massachusetts so far as anyone can tell), which is based on his old partner in science Madison Li apparently leaving the Capital area for the Commonwealth after the main canon finishes, and that he was originally from out West and may have been employed by or affiliated with the Enclave, to the point of possibly knowing Augustus Autumn. That one is based on the interaction between him and Autumn at Project Purity just before everything goes to hell- "Now, Colonel- is it Colonel?" etc. In which case the accent was a deliberate attempt on his part to obscure his origins.
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[personal profile] 1stwitness 2013-12-11 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Not regarding my character specifically, but for the Dresden Files, I'm firmly convinced Harry's maternal grandmother was Fae. And that we've already been introduced to Ivy's father, but I'm not sure who he is yet.

(I have a LOT of theories about Sleepy Hollow, but most of them are intensely spoilerish.)
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[personal profile] damncompass 2013-12-11 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Warehouse 13: I have SO MANY theories/ideas/whatever, but here are my two favourites.

Canon says that Mrs. F's grandson is in a nursing home. Woman's hella long-lived, due to Caretakerishness. That leads to a fan theory (and a personal favourite): Mr. Kosan, the Head Regent of the Warehouse is Hephaesteon, Alexander the Great's lover/friend/what have you. He's been there since the beginning, still protecting the Warehouse. It got a little Jossed by some things of the last episode of Season 4, but I'm stickin' to that because I like it. It also just enhances the family atmosphere of the place.

Also, the Warehouse can appear. Just like the TARDIS, if the situation was right, she could take human form. It's pretty damn canon that the building/collection does have an opinion on the matter, (just look at all of the static balls/Warehousestorms in opportune moments, not to mention the mess with the spike). When she does appear, she looks like a Macedonian princess. (Alexander's daughter, after all!)

For Helena specifically, a couple things. First, the person she killed had to be her partner Wooley. She would not have broken down so completely if it was anyone else. Also, she didn't actually kill him. In her studying of time travel, she threw him forward in time a few years, and then (like canon says) he got killed by pirates in the move. However, that was long enough for her to fall apart and be bronzed. (Also not speculation, but canon's timeline for the rocket episode makes no bloody sense. I go more with the dates on Christina's coffin in season 2.)

Ender's Game: Holy shiz, I have so many years of Ender's Game backstory, it's not even funny. Most of it isn't that interesting, just goings-on in Battleschool, and the way things are back home.

Rent: A 'headcanon confirmed' moment: In the movie version of Rent (which I take with an entire salt lick), Mark goes "MAUREEN, THIS ISN'T MY BAR MITZVAH" which is confirmation that they knew each other growing up. I'd canoned that a while before.

Otherwise, most of my Rent theories aren't that off-the-wall. (frankly I feel like some of the fandom's theories are worse than mine.)
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[personal profile] student_of_impossibility 2013-12-11 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I was going to say 'Rent is one of the fandoms that scares me,' except most do.

But I remember hearing some craaazy stuff.
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[personal profile] sunbaked_baker 2013-12-11 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh gosh. Sunshine's canon is made of unanswered questions, being that the book is tied to Sunshine's POV and her limited knowledge (not that she's the most reliable narrator anyway), and she sometimes adamantly avoids drawing conclusions about things. The reader is essentially required to draw their own conclusions about things. My guesses aren't really 'out there,' and they've been worked into my RPing of Sunshine over the past few years, but here they are:

1. Mel is a sorcerer. His shady past is really very shady, to the point he doesn't like the surviving members of his gang mentioning parts of it or his war service where Sunshine can hear. Also, within a few pages of Rae making comments about the tattooing sorcerers sometimes get, it's mentioned that the legal limit of live warding tattoos a tattoo artist can do on a person is three, so where did Mel get the many other warding tattoos done? And why does he need all of that protection? And what are all the tattoos specifically for, that he won't tell Sunshine when she asks about some of them?

2. Constantine's unorthodox way of being a vampire necessitates not feeding on humans at all. The backlash that ages vampires (and changes their powers) comes from the fear/panic they incite in the humans they feed on. To be fed from, humans must invite the vampire to feed on them, and there's no way a human gives in without being forced to. Con's mention of how he kills ("With one clean stroke, like any good hunter") and his opinion that there can be no clean death between a vampire and a human, as well as his matter-of-fact descriptions of how humans and animals approach the concept of their own deaths differently... would indicate he does not feed on humans.

3. The Blaises are dead. They may have all disappeared without a trace right before the Wars, but no way does an estranged father who writes postcards to his daughter two or three times a week for four years straight suddenly cease all contact with her by choice. Same goes for Rae's grandmother. Rae was a young magic-handler and her grandmother was the only person giving her any guidance about it - no way would Rae's grandmother abandon her like that by choice.

Among the other, smaller unanswered questions, my answers:
4. Rae's mother's bloodline is purely human.
5. The Goddess of Pain is not purely human (my guess is she's a fallen angel).
6. Rae's father's love for his family does not negate the fact that he was not a good guy.
7. Sunshine and Constantine's message about Con's unorthodox way of being a vampire will eventually begin to spread by word of mouth among vampires, beyond those spoken to directly by Rae and Con.
Edited 2013-12-11 15:10 (UTC)
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[personal profile] alas_a_llama 2013-12-11 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
- Only after coming to reply do I realise I don't have many theories at all.

Let's see. Well, for ATLA/LoK I have a theory that Fire Lord Azulon was the developer of lightningbending, since neither Sozin nor Roku seem to be able to use it, and the fact that neither Aang nor Korra seem to use it in the Avatar State kind of suggests that no previous Avatar learned it. That, and in ATLA, the only people we do see use it are Azulon's sons and his granddaughter.

I don't think that's really a particularly strange theory, though.


For FF12 - well, there are a lot of mysteries there, and Ivalice is deliberately set up as a very mysterious world. The only theory that comes to mind is that Gramis, Vayne and the Senate occasionally allude to Gramis (potentially under the orders of the Senate) having ordered Vayne to kill his older brothers, but it's never made clear at all what crime they had committed, if any.

My theory for that is either that his older brothers were planning to overthrow Gramis, the Senate, the War Council and the Ministry of Law and establish themselves as absolute dictators; or that the Senate became paranoid that they were a threat to them and forced Gramis' hand, since it's well-acknowledged that the Senate is both intensely paranoid, power-hungry and deeply suspicious of the power that the office of the Emperor and the Solidor Family holds. This would also explain why Zecht gets promoted to Judge Magister, the highest military office in the Empire with considerable political power, when he's presumably barely in his twenties - it would be necessary to remove any Judge Magisters who were loyal to Vayne's brothers and see them replaced with ones loyal to Gramis or Vayne, and Zecht is noted repeatedly to have been very loyal to Vayne.


I also have an ongoing theory that humans/humes aren't native to Ivalice. Something caused the Occuria to abandon Giruvegan and relinquish direct control over Ivalice in favour of indirect control, and they make semi-frequent allusions to humes being somehow unnatural, or distinct from the other species of Ivalice.

For Kamen Rider, er. Iiiiii don't have very many theories for it, I think.
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[personal profile] student_of_impossibility 2013-12-11 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect that almost if not all the Gaius family would sympathize with the Solidor family. A lot.
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2013-12-11 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, this is how I think animal names work:

Take two animals - Animal X and Animal Y, that look a bit alike in some ways but not in others. However, the parts of Animal X that doesn't resemble Y, looks a lot like features found in Animal W. And the parts of animal Y that aren't found in X are in fact found in Z.

The language just names the suite of features the animals share, and not the animal themselves. So a Bear-dog and a gopher-bear are not related, but 'bear' means 'suite of features shared by animals with bear in their name. That's why Bosco was weird but not super weird, because he just had bear-like features.

In a universe where animals almost certainly did not evolve from a common ancestor, but possibly created separately from the spirits, this isn't as stupid as it sounds. Animal are actually sort of random, and no two animals are more closely related than any other (like dogs and wolves.)

Extrapolate and allow for the fact that all we see of the world is a cartoon depiction (the humans look like real humans, not like cartoons, for example) I'd suggest that Naga looks much more like a unique animal than she does a hybrid of a polar bear and a dog, but once the translation magic works its thing, then you can't unsee it.
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2013-12-11 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, I think Fang, Appa and Naga are reincarnations of each other.
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[personal profile] aberration 2013-12-11 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't disagree with any of this, but I think Vaatu said something to Wan that was like "before the first of your kind crawled out of the mud" or something, which sounds vaguely evolution-y and I'd think both evolutionary and spiritual forces could be at work in the world. Though I don't think the animals are meant to be literal hybrids.

This is also getting into too much thought, but I think your description of the X-Y terminology for animals may work well with the linguistic differences between English and the language the characters actually use. Particularly in the idea that a word with a third independent meaning can be made up of individual elements with their own meanings that maybe indicative of the characteristics of the word. (But I am super not an expert in written Chinese so...)
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[personal profile] daringyoungman 2013-12-11 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, you and your paying-attention-to-canon. I don't think it matters too much, though. They are animals that are very diverse and disparate, and the language gives them weird names.

I know very little about written Chinese, but I'm really glad that my theory may actually make sense if you squint!
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2013-12-11 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Another out-there theory: Dinah is a second cousin of the third Robin.
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[personal profile] sdelmonte 2013-12-11 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
There is something referred to in a DCU handbook that says the first Robin is related to the first Robotman for the same reason.
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2013-12-11 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm less inclined to believe that, because the Graysons got around and we don't know where they're from, when at least Dinah and Tim are from the same city.

Also, it turns out that I really hate the idea of Kate and Bruce being related, to the extent where it made me drop the book. Having it there doesn't mean I ever want it brought up.
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2013-12-11 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, Martha had money. Jake didn't. That was a thing. The money the Kanes have now is Catherine's. This is a major sticking point in Kate and Catherine's relationship. "Your step-mother's money."

Kanes in Gotham are like smiths.
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2013-12-11 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
And of course, there's the first Guardian and the first Speedy, who ARE related in Young Justice canon.
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[personal profile] no_vampires_plz 2013-12-11 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
There's the fan theory that the ponies' planet is Earth in the far future after humanity has gone extinct...
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2013-12-11 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
YOU MANIACS. DAMN YOU! GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL.
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[personal profile] 1nv1nc1ble 2013-12-11 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"Get yer stinkin' hooves offa me, you damn dirty horse!"
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[personal profile] sdelmonte 2013-12-11 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
1. The DC Universe that Charlie is from? It's still going. He's still dead there, mind you, but it's alive and well and WILL cross over with the New 52 in about six years.

2. The new funny Teen Titans cartoon? It exists in the canon of the first show. Beast Boy sold the rights to the team to Cartoon Network. He loves the show. Even gets to do his own voice. The rest of the team isn't so happy. Especially Raven, since she does NOT collect Pretty Pretty Pegasus dolls.

3. OK, this not entirely my canon since Howard Stark lives in the past, but...where was SHIELD during Iron Man 3? After that fiasco where the morons who run SHIELD lobbed a nuke at NYC in Avengers, the president was really pissed. He's fine letting SHIELD do the things on SHIELD can do. But he no longer trusts them to do national security. And broke off things like the partnership between SHIELD and NASA.

Which, come to think of it, answers JJ's question about why SHIELD isn't treating Dr. Selvig's mental illness. He got let go, and then is being ignored in a fit of pique.

Anyway, even though SHIELD has some sort of status as a governmental agency in the US, right now no one in Washington trusts them. Even Tony Stark. It's not like we saw him calling his old buddy Nick Fury, either. (And Tony and Pepper will hit the roof when they learn Coulson is still alive.)
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2013-12-11 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
2. Head canon accepted.
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[personal profile] ashen_key 2013-12-11 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't think SHIELD was in charge of the national security for one country, though? I mean, it's an American-based agency, but it has an international jurisdiction and focus on Weird Shit(and I thoooought SHIELD confirmed my headcanon that it's an international agency, hence the WSC being in charge, but I'll need to rewatch.)

I kinda assumed it was a combination of terrorism not exactly being their jurisdiction, internal tensions and stressors, and Stark and Rhodey not talking to them (which, it's...Tony Stark. The guy NEVER calls in outside help. But also, yeah, WSC stuffed up that one.)
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[personal profile] sdelmonte 2013-12-11 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
SHIELD's bosses in the MCU are maddeningly unclear. We know that the SSR was created by the US War Department. We see that with only a handful of exceptions (your current and past pups being among them) SHIELD/SSR personnel are very American. But we have nothing more than that to base our assumptions on.

One of the many problems I had with Agents of SHIELD is that we don't really get a good sense of how they are and how they function. I think a lot of that will be addressed in Winter Soldier, but for now, we are left guessing.

If it matters, in the comics, SHIELD has pinballed between being an UN agency and being an US agency. I think that it's been the latter for a while, though. Not that this affects the MCU.
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[personal profile] ashen_key 2013-12-11 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* Yeah, it IS vague. But I think for me, the fact that the WSC are the ones in charge of SHIELD say to me that it's international (hence their right to trump Peru's laws, which I'm deeply uncomfortable with that being the case if SHIELD is solely a national agency), and all we see generally are the American agents, due to the setting. Which of course doesn't help matters post-Avengers with an international organization trying to nuke Manhattan.

Siiiigh, hurry up, CA2.
Edited 2013-12-11 20:26 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sdelmonte 2013-12-11 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
That whole thing with Peru was a mess anyway. Like I said, that show and I stopped talking to each other for many reasons. Even if I retain some faith in the broader MCU (including the Netflix shows).
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[personal profile] ashen_key 2013-12-11 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I adore the show, actually. But, yeah, I was just mentioning as 'case in point of international'. I suspect if that's the case, SHIELD tries not to get involved with local power disputes and things, unless they are aware it involves Weird Shit. Which they didn't know in IM3, because Tony didn't tell them until after everything went down. Because he's Tony.
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[personal profile] death_gone_mad 2013-12-11 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
  1. SLISKE DID ASHDALE
  2. Ashdale is a magical place just like Tahiti
  3. Amascut is secretly manipulating the Godless
  4. I am pretty sure that I am the only one who thinks the sea slugs are mutated/primative/regressed members of the Universal Union/Advisors from Half-Life 2
  5. Amascut's human form looks like an Auspah for a very good reason. Not just because goddess or because magic.
  6. Fairy Fixit will be involved in the inventor skill
  7. The laws of physics are sort of a thing. Because magic does not explain everything. Crazy, I know, right?
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[personal profile] hello_freak 2013-12-11 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
In my head, post-Reichenbach, Molly & Sherlock got close. Really close. It's awkward, and intense, and adorable by turns. And no one ever suspects a thing. (Alright, maybe John, but he discounted it out of hand.)

And I suspect Mrs. Hudson may have had something to do with it.
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[personal profile] moonandstar 2013-12-12 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I'll just leave this link here.

There are three parts to the Enantiomorph. The Rebel deposes the King, with the assistance of a Witness, who betrays the King and is wounded during the King's overthrow. Yet without the Witness, who would tell the Rebel from the King?

Space cannot exist without time, and time cannot exist without space. Do you know why? Because space and time are really one thing, spacetime, with an imaginary line drawn through it because of mortals' limited perception which makes us see them as two. Where does space end and time begin? Wherever we chose to arbitrarily place the line between them.

It is the same with the Rebel and the King, with Anu and Padomay, with Chaos and Order. Chaos cannot exist without order, and order cannot exist without chaos. Do you know why? Because chaos and order are really one thing, everything itself, with an imaginary line drawn through it because of mortals' limited perception which makes us see them as two. Where does chaos end and order begin? Wherever we chose to arbitrarily place the line between them. It is the Witness who decides this, who must always discern the Rebel and choose to take his side. It is not only because the Selectives danced on the Tower that the Akatosh of Cyrod has an aspect of Lorkhan.

And who or what gives limit and definition to the impossible intersection of infinities that is the Aurbis? Who gives form to the formless, and chooses the specific manifestation of order and chaos and space and time within the universe? The Godhead does, by dreaming it.

As a result of the holy treachery of the Rebel and the Witness, a Plane of existence is fortified, and the Rebel assumes the mantle of an old god who came before. It is a story which repeats itself, from Dawn to Convention to the Apotheosis of Talos. Many of those who experience or study this endeavor are able to follow it to its logical conclusion: reality is a dream of the Godhead.

When you fall asleep and dream, and in this dream you have a conversation with a man in a bowler hat, who are you really talking to? Not the man in a hat - he does not exist except within your imagination. You are actually talking to yourself. Now imagine the man in the hat suddenly realized this. He now sees that he is not truly himself. Nor is anything else he sees, or anything else he has ever known truly itself. All things in his universe are simply one mind: yours. He is you, and so is everything else. This is what it is to recognize the Godhead.

Upon realizing they do not actually exist, many who see the Godhead have the quite sensible reaction of actually ceasing to exist. The man in the hat vanishes from your dream, and you continue to sleep none the wiser. But what if, upon being confronted with this fact, a man chooses to exist anyway? What if, upon being confronted with the notion that all that exists is a grand and illusory "WE," a man stood before that undeniable fact in full awareness of it, heedless of its immutability, and said a single, terrible word: "I" ? The dream has broken free of its dreamer, and can now do what it wills.

The wasting away is called zero-sum. The second option is called CHIM, and is the secret sigil of royalty and the Beating Heart of the Endeavor. Vivec achieved it, as did the Red King and Shadow of Lorkhan, Tiber Septim.

But there is a third option - the Amaranth, who goes beyond total freedom within the dream and instead becomes his own Godhead by dreaming his own universe. To find it we look to the first enantiomorph - Anu, Padomay, and Nirni. Padomay the King loved Nirni, and yearned to possess her. But Nirni the Witness loved Anu the Rebel, and Anu slew Padomay in their fight over her. But Nirni died from her wounds in this awful fighting, and Anu retreated into the sun, cutting himself off from all his senses, and Dreamed. Not only had he seen the Godhead for what it is, he had lost all that he loved. He abandoned this universe and Dreamed a new one, much the same as the universe he came from. Within his dream, he "woke up" in the same place he fell asleep, and dreamed that Padomay returned so that they could both kill each other.

Which brings me to my actual theory: The Nerevarine (the Rebel) overthrows Daogth Ur (the King) by cutting him off from the source of his and the Tribunal's power. All of Morrowind is Witness to this event, united behind the Nerevarine. They reject Dagoth Ur and "betray" that great counselor who all along had only tried to be faithful to them. But because the Tribunal has lost its power, there was nothing but their waning faith keeping the meteor Baar Dau from smashing into Vivec City and triggering the eruption of Vvardenfell. They are wounded as a result of their betrayal.

The Nerevarine, who loved Morrowind as dearly as Anu loved Nirni, fled eastward to Akavir - toward the sun. He saw the Godhead and dreamed of a new world. And that is why he has gone missing.

But do not listen so closely to me. Like all Deeplore scholars, I fling my theories against the Internet like a monkey flings its poo against the wall. I look forward to the fast-approaching day when I cease being an idiot and become simply wrong instead.
Edited 2013-12-12 02:06 (UTC)
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[personal profile] batyatoon 2013-12-12 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
It's not my canon, technically, buuuut ... I have a longstanding Crackpot Theory about the "Face of the Enemy" webisodes from Battlestar Galactica.

Which is essentially that the Eight in the Raptor was lying. She may or may not have been the same Eight who Gaeta was working with on New Caprica, but that Eight never had anyone killed. This Eight set up everything that happened in that Raptor, including getting them lost in the first place, in order to sabotage the alliance -- by getting the one guy who will always do what he thinks is right utterly convinced that the Cylons can't be trusted.

There were a lot of factors that went into this theory, but the one I can't find any other explanation for is: when did she strip the pliers?