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Does your pup have an arch enemy? Are there people who are constantly at odds with your pup? Why don't they get along? How do they deal with being in that kind of relationship? (This applies to canon and Millicanon.)

 
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[personal profile] a1enzo 2014-01-14 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Enzo has his family's archenemy (Megabyte) and his fiancée's archenemy (Vlad Masters/Plasmius). The latter is in special maximum security prison, and the former hasn't been heard from since the Allpocalypse and is missing presumed Webbed. He probably won't get an archenemy of his very own until he's stationed somewhere a little smaller than the Supercomputer.
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[personal profile] sdelmonte 2014-01-14 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Interestingly, the original Question is one of the few costumed heroes who didn't have recurring enemies. A few came back once or twice during the run of his comic, but he really never had an archenemy. He apparently left such things to Renee. But there are plenty of people he doesn't get along with. Helena really doesn't like him these days, and for cause given that wisecrack he made to her. She tolerates him because of Renee, and he steers clear of her (unless her mun asks for a thread). He also doesn't really get along with Gordon Freeman, since he is sure Gordon still thinks Charlie's mishandling of his role in a battle against the Combine was cowardly. Charlie rarely talks to Gordon, but tries to behave since he is friends with Alyx. (There is clearly a pattern here. Charlie knows how to alienate people.)

Kirk has the Klingons. And Khan. He's made some peace with the former by now, but Khan is going to forever stand out as the worst threat he's ever faced, the source of nightmares. He also really doesn't get along with the Starfleet bureaucracy, and that's worse now that he's been put out to pasture. And back in the day, Jim and Weatherspoon from Dog Soldiers totally hit it off badly. Spoon is about the only person in the bar to call Jim out for his moralizing.

Howard has many rivals, but wouldn't even call HYDRA an archenemy. Their beef wasn't with him per se. He tends to get along with everyone, but you can feel the air in the room get cold when Howard Stark is in the same place as Howard Hughes.

Gibbs abhors Barbossa for cause. They can work together when they need to, but would prefer to be on opposite sides of the ocean. Gibbs also hasn't much use for the Royal Navy, but can be civil to most seamen so long as they aren't currently officers.

Knox has made a lot of people in Gotham angry, but none count as real enemies (so far). He can be caustic, but people seem to like him anyway. He's managed to rub people in the Bar the wrong way only a couple of times. Long ago, he tried to be friends with the woman with the tentacles who used to date the blind character from Sneakers. (Cam, if you see this, I am blanking on the names. Been way too long since I thought about it.) This woman was the best friend of Knox's best friend in the Bar, Rachel Grey. And he tried so hard to be her friend, too, that she was repulsed. He avoided her afterwards, and felt really awkward. (PS: The mun for this character was also the mun for Spoon. She was a great player and we had lots of great threads, and one of the reasons was because she was never afraid to let characters not like each other. I strive for that sort of fearless play, but it's hard to do.)

Cyborg: The Titans have way too many archfoes, ranging from Slade to Trigon. But Cy's specific enemy is Gizmo, who is jealous of Cy's tech, and still feels betrayed by Cy from when he was undercover at the HIVE Academy, and and who is still jealous that Jinx was into Cy and not him. Sooner or later, I will do something with this rivalry. Otherwise, everyone loves Cy.
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[personal profile] camwyn 2014-01-14 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Cam, if you see this, I am blanking on the names

Suzi Darley and Erwin "Whistler" Emory.
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[personal profile] sdelmonte 2014-01-14 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks!
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[personal profile] camwyn 2014-01-14 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
And it's not so much that Gordon sees Charlie's thing as cowardly as 'Oh, well, war's just not my thing, traipsing off to do whatever I like now, byebye!'. Gordon got hit in the face by a level of violence and warfare he was completely unprepared for, and found that people were depending on him, and stuck it out; he sees Charlie's action not as cowardice, but as not taking a life-and-death matter seriously. Charlie opted in despite being told what was going to happen, and then decided 'nope, not interested' and walked off as if it were no more important than signing up for an online college course or doing a volunteer work week somewhere and going home early..

It's like the training scene early in Dune where Paul Atreides isn't up to snuff against Gurney and says he's just not in the mood for it. "Mood? What has mood to do with it? You fight when the necessity arises — no matter the mood! Mood's a thing for cattle or making love or playing the baliset. It's not for fighting."
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[personal profile] sdelmonte 2014-01-14 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally not Charlie's finest moment. But also the end of any pretense to being a hero any longer.
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[personal profile] camwyn 2014-01-14 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Which, fair enough! Gordon probably ought to let it go at some point, but nobody's ever said the man was without character flaws, and holding grudges is one of them.
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[personal profile] just_a_chemical 2014-01-14 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Sofia Lamb wants to turn her daughter into the perfect Utopian, devoid of free will and living only to calculate and work toward the common good. She's subjected her to experiments that at best, will fill her brain with the memories, skills and essence of all the (frequently murderously crazy) dead people of her city, and at worst will turn her into a giant cross between a slug and a fetus living in a tank like Dr. Alexander. She thinks the tank thing won't happen to Eleanor, but nobody knows for sure. Eleanor naturally doesn't like this, so she plays nice until she can escape. After all that, though, she still loves her because this is her mother unless the player is Evil Delta and then she kills her
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[personal profile] venusadept_2 2014-01-14 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Alex. This is not strictly canon, but based on some characters' responses in Dark Dawn I figure I'm on fairly safe ground. The reason, basically, is that Alex contributed to the save-the-world quest because he knew a way to get Ultimate Power out of it. (This did not quite work as planned, because of influences Alex had no way to know about.) And he didn't tell anyone that's what he was doing. However, Alex was buried under a mountain for a while and has been keeping pretty quiet since he got out, although once I get a bit of RP-brain back he's going to have set off a pretty major thing that Felix'll be investigating.
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[personal profile] camwyn 2014-01-14 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Ellen doesn't really have archenemies any more. They're all dead. Probably the closest she had to one was Alistair Tenpenny, who offered the original price on her head for crossing his plans for Megaton; Voodoo ended him once and for all. The other alternative would've been Colonel Augustus Autumn, who led the forces that took the purifier from her father and who captured her and Star Paladin Cross in Vault 87, but when their paths finally crossed again at the purifier, she talked him into leaving the room- and refrained from mentioning that there were several heavily armed Brotherhood Paladins who had followed her and Cross, so now he dead from laser. I know this is a terrible tragedy to anyone of a trollish frame of mind, but let's face it, some people were just never cut out for long term kismesitude.

Gordon and Shephard would probably both say the greyfaced thing in the suit, although Shephard would say it with a lot more words you can't air on primetime television. Gordon's #2 candidate would've been Wallace Breen. Also dead.

Varric does not currently have an archenemy and would say this is because he carefully orchestrates his dealings so that no one particular person has significantly more desire to see him ruined than any other, so they all balance each other out. It's a valuable, vital skill in Kirkwall. This is going to change by the time he gets back from the Deep Roads.

Mordin... no, not really, not that I can think of, unless there's an academic or intelligence service rival out there somewhere that we never hear about.

Medic's is the RED Medic, and it has been my headcanon since before Meet the Medic came out that part of the reason BLU Medic hasn't got a medical license is because he and the other guy inadvertently re-enacted the Reichstag fire when they both sneaked into the Hall of Records and tried to set fire to all the documentation about each other at the same time. (Note: I have not played TF2 since before they had hats in the game. I haven't followed any of the canon developments at all since then. I'm sorry.)

Edward hasn't got an archenemy yet. That will happen. Canon is like that.

I don't think there's any one overarching archenemy in El Santo's canon. I'm not even sure any of his enemies come back for more than one movie, unless some of the vampire movies feature recurring characters.

And Stacker Pentecost has no archenemy other than whatever power is behind the kaiju, but good Lord does he ever harbor a quiet, burning dislike for the cowardly cost-crunching bureaucrats who defunded the Jaeger program in favor of the Wall.
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[personal profile] sdelmonte 2014-01-14 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Stacker and Kirk need to have a long chat about the evils of bureaucrats.
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[personal profile] genarti 2014-01-14 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Thor has... uh... Thor has an IT'S COMPLICATED relationship with his brother, which arch enemy does not cover but constantly at odds sure could. Especially in future canon Milliways!Thor hasn't gotten to yet. The reasons they don't get along come down to very different personalities, Odin's terrible parenting, and Loki's raging issues which Thor is not great at productively navigating on account of the very different personalities. And the fact that Asgardians do everything on an epic scale, including tantrums and arguments.

Clare has Priscilla, who is the Awakened One who killed Teresa. That'd be the reason for Clare's hatred, right there. Clare is 100% set on killing Priscilla EXTREMELY DEAD whenever she tracks her down, and that's the root reason for several of her life decisions. Priscilla, uh, literally doesn't know Clare exists.

Trowa: Nah, not really! Even in the war, Trowa's weren't really personal enmities oh wait I lie sort of. Middie Une is more an IT'S REALLY COMPLICATED than an arch enemy -- they were friends, she was betraying his side, she set things up so that he was sort of the vehicle for the deaths of a lot of his friends and comrades, but also she was being used too and they were both young kids at the time, and at the time he had her at gunpoint and let her go -- but I would be fascinated to see how that ever played out if she did show up again. But I don't think it would be as enemies, which is a different thing from dislike. In terms of real enemies, in the war or not... nah, not really. Maybe Une, but that was a different kind of relationship even at the time, and now they work together just fine.

River and Regan: Not really! Not personally like this, anyway. You could have argued Jubal Early for River in-bar at one point, I guess. And Regan and Gabriel have political opponents, but Gabriel is the more visible one of them for that kind of thing. (Do Nick Rosse and Raguel count? Uh. Maybe Raguel counts. Even if Raguel probably doesn't think so.)

Enjolras: Arch enemy? No. Constantly at odds? In Milliways, Javert might count, I suppose; Javert and Valjean have a much more complicated and personal tangle which includes opposition in it, but Javert and Enjolras DO NOT GET ALONG AT ALL. This is due to barricade events, and a completely opposed philosophical framework. Enjolras is generally willing to be cordial with people who disagree with him, the better to persuade them round. But the barricade (most notably Prouvaire's death) put paid to some of that, and Javert greeting him at the Milliways door with PITY YOU'RE NOT IN HELL YET, GOOD JOB GETTING ALL YOUR FRIENDS KILLED, YOU MURDERER wiped away the last of Enjolras's desire to be anything but coldly disdainful to him.
Edited 2014-01-14 15:20 (UTC)
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[personal profile] road_to_calvary 2014-01-14 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I so want to say Javert will apologise for that one day, buuuuut...
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[personal profile] genarti 2014-01-14 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahahaha yeah I am not holding my breath on that one. If he did, I would probably wonder if he'd been replaced by a pod person! Unless it was an exceedingly stiff-necked apology full of ill grace and after someone else had dropped some suggestion anvils on him.

(Enjolras is not holding his breath either, and he would not accept the apology with particular grace if by some chance it happened.)
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[personal profile] never_shall_yield 2014-01-14 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
*cackle* I can almost guarantee the suggestion anvils might come at some point. I can also almost guarantee that they'll be snorted at, and ignored.

If, by some miracle, they are not, then there is no doubt that any apology would be the most awkward and begrudging excuse of a thing ever known. And if Enjolras didn't accept it badly it would be worse, because then he wouldn't have an excuse to keep thinking poorly of him.

So. All in all, it's not likely to occur, and if it did nothing would improve. \o/ :D
genarti: Enjolras looking annoyed and disapproving, and/or about to go revolutionize all the things. ([les mis] both agog and aghast)

[personal profile] genarti 2014-01-14 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, Enjolras would accept it with cold and pointed courtesy (and continued use of tu, which I have just had pointed out to me is a switch he makes at Prouvaire's death), which is basically no different than how Enjolras has been interacting with him anyway.

If Javert were actually apologizing for the underlying behavior -- for being the kind of person to throw that at somebody just in the door, because the fact that Enjolras wasn't hurt by the accusation doesn't mean he isn't fully aware that it was meant to hurt him badly -- then maybe it would be different. But in that case, I suspect hell would also be freezing over. And if it's just a grudging apology for the actual words... yeah, no, the mutual dislike would continue right apace.

*pats both their heads carefully*
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[personal profile] never_shall_yield 2014-01-14 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahhh, they are so alike, bless them. Although in this case, J is absolutely worse because he was a total shithead in this instance. But then, he was a shithead at the barricade, and he was a shithead when Valjean wanted to go and rescue an abused child, and he was a shithead to Fantine, so...yeah. Enjolras killing someone probably still doesn't make him as all-round gittish as Javert is, now I think about it.

The goal is to eventually get him to see how he should at least try to understand other people's points of view? (It says something that he's more likely to understand Valjean before a revolutionary, because even with his revelation about mercy, he still can't see how that allows rebellion against the government.) And if he can get that, maybe he can get why telling someone exactly what he thinks of them at the moment all their friends have been killed is not a nice thing to do...yeah. Maybe? I don't know. I doubt it, at this point, but we'll see.
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[personal profile] genarti 2014-01-14 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they're different in some key ways (and Javert is definitely way more of a git, as well as way more resistant to admitting he was wrong about anything -- Enjolras does terrible things, but he does them for a clear goal rather than as incidental cruelty, so I guess at least there's that.) But they're pretty similar in stubbornness and in tendency to see the world in absolutes, i.e. similar in the ways that mean neither of them is likely to attempt reconciliation here, or indeed see any reason for it.

(Also they both could be said to have an arch enemy of the abstract concept of injustice, while being DEEPLY INSULTED by the very notion that the other is opposing the same thing. Since, you know, they have exceedingly different definitions.)

But I am enjoying watching Javert's journey of TINY INCREMENTAL RESISTING STEPS towards that! It's a good goal. And we'll see what else does or doesn't come along the way, indeed.
Edited 2014-01-14 20:38 (UTC)
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[personal profile] street_sparrow 2014-01-14 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I... would like to say Gavroche would try to help them get to civility, but honestly at this point and for the foreseeable future, he'd be happy with them staying far away from each other.
genarti: Enjolras looking annoyed and disapproving, and/or about to go revolutionize all the things. ([les mis] both agog and aghast)

[personal profile] genarti 2014-01-14 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the trouble is that I don't think either of them sees a particular reason to work towards civility. *facepalming* (Or, well, Enjolras is civil, and so is Javert mostly with some more condescension in the mix -- both of them coldly, pointedly civil, and entirely unfriendly about it.)

If for some external reason they had to work together (oh god what a prospect), then maybe. If they had more common ground, then quite possibly. If either of them had any hope of convincing the other, then quite possibly also! But as it is, they don't seek each other out at all, and when their paths cross because their muns are mean, they see no reason why they ought to pretend to anything but serious dislike with just enough courtesy that they're not lowering themselves by a lack of it.

Write, tell me if I'm wrong about Javert's side! But that's Enjolras's perspective, for sure. He'd be baffled if Gavroche did try to mediate -- like, okay, if you think there's reason for a friendlier relationship feel free to make your case, Gavroche, but why do you think that?

(And if Gavroche made an argument Enjolras found convincing, he would do his best to act accordingly. Enjolras is used to surrounding himself with people who call him on stuff and argue with him when they think he's wrong, and he's willing to admit it when they have a point. But I'm not sure what that argument would be.)
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[personal profile] never_shall_yield 2014-01-14 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
they see no reason why they ought to pretend to anything but serious dislike with just enough courtesy that they're not lowering themselves by a lack of it.

This is the most perfect description of their current enemyship! I do not disagree in any way. Not only does Javert actively dislike Enjolras and everything - that is, everything - he stands for, he has absolutely no reason to change that.

I don't think even Valjean could convince him otherwise, when they've calmed their own levels of difficulty with each other. Because even if Javert works towards being more accepting of people on a personal level, there's getting on with people - and then there's being friendly with someone who tried to overthrow the government. Even when/if Javert learns to deal with kindness and mercy, I don't think he'll ever have sympathy for people who go that far. Innocent citizens died. Many, many guardsmen died. It's not just a question of shaking his hand, and putting it behind them. Quite apart from his own extremes of morality, Javert's a royalist. If he comes more to the centre on issues of morality, that's still not going to excuse revolution.
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[personal profile] 1nv1nc1ble 2014-01-14 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Invincible has several, but the only one that has really shown up currently is Omni-Man, and much like Thor, it's more of an "It's Complicated" sort of relationship. (How to you reconcile One Really Bad Day against 18 years of being a Good Father?) There are others, but they haven't come on the scene yet, and the Lex Luthor to Invincible's Superboy hasn't even become a villain yet.
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[personal profile] fluffiest_archadian 2014-01-14 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yugo - to be honest, you'd think Phoenix would be his arch-enemy, but they get along just fine. They're both far too affable and affectionate people/giant death birds to keep things like 'I want to kill you and steal your life' or 'I am acting functionally as your gaoler' get in the way of being friends.

As is the case for anyone in a Kamen Rider series, he'll probably acquire either an arch-enemy or a string of them soon enough, although it might end up being pretty one-sided. He's not got the glands for it.

Sherral: Sherral doesn't have an arch-enemy now. If he ever did, he killed them probably about six seconds after realising that they were his arch-enemy.

He does have a strong hatred for the bureaucrats and political game-players that his position sees him interacting with far too often for his liking.

Wan: Wan will have an arch-enemy in the future, although really Vaatu is more like Raava's arch-enemy. At the moment, he's at odds with the Chou brothers.
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[personal profile] damncompass 2014-01-14 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Joshua doesn't really have an arch enemy per se, unless you could MacPherson/Reynolds, and he's dead. (But then again, there are only two people in Warehouse who seem to be completely dead, and that's Christina and Leena.) He butts heads with Artie more than a little because of their completely different ways of looking at things. It's going to come to a head eventually, but for now, it's a lot of fussing at each other.

Valentine's main antagonist is Peter. They fuss at each other, she tries to balance him, and it somehow works out.

Mark's antagonist is Benny. ... yeah.
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[personal profile] death_gone_mad 2014-01-14 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Amascut has her brother Icthlarin and her former high priestess Neite. In Icthlarin's case, the feeling isn't mutual. Amascut hates her brother for sticking to the old ways by continuing the life-death cycle and also for bringing the Mahjarrat into the world all those millenia ago, but I get the feeling Icthlarin thinks his sister is sick and just wants her to get better and to come home to her family. As for what Amascut has been doing to her brother -- she has been regularly killing off and corrupting his priests and has filled the underworld with soul devouring beasts, making his job of shepherding the dead to the Afterlife much more difficult. This is part of the reason she's weird around Grim Reaper types and especially around Manny Calavera in Milliways.

Neite is the reason why she has a phobia about cats. Neite led Amascut's priests and priestesses in their revolt against Amascut and in some way cursed her. It's not clear how the curse works, but Neite claims Amascut can't stay in the same mortal form for long and Amascut's name will be forgotten as soon as it is heard. The curse doesn't seem to be working very well these days except when it is convenient for Amascut. Anyhow, for their betrayal, Amascut turned Neite and the rest of her surviving clergy into cats permanently, and then Icthlarin, feeling guilty and sorry for these new cats, made it even more permanent by granting them immortality. Just another reason for Amascut to hate her brother. Neite still hasn't forgiven Amascut, so Amascut's phobia is partially justified. There really is a feline conspiracy against her on her world.

There are many more besides that. Her adopted siblings and the Mahjarrat are next in line, but I have the feeling that even with potential friends and allies, she has a compulsion to look for a flaw that will justify her mistrust of them.
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[personal profile] fairy_fixit 2014-01-14 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
For my other two:

I really doubt Fairy Fixit has an archenemy. She has opinions (mostly negative) about gods and religion, and maybe she had academic rivals, but nothing that I would say is as passionate a relationship as an archenemy thing.

Evil Chicken doesn't have the attention span. Evil Chicken is the false god of distraction. Death might have been an enemy at one time, but Death only counts as an occasional rival these days, I think. The Chocotrice is also just a rival.

Death and the Chocatrice. Haha.
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2014-01-14 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Will: The Sheriff or Sir Guy, though it would be fairer to say they would consider Robin their archenemy and all of his men, which Will would fall under.

Charles: Not yet, Shaw partly but its more they have conflicting dreams and even with Erik as Magneto, Charles would never use archenemy. He would say its complicated.

Moist: Not yet, but give him time and soon he'll have Vimes on his trail. For now, in Milliways, there's Teja who never seems to let a moment when he can go, you're an awful human being go by without telling Moist.

Ivan: Nope, as a member of the Barrarayn military, he gets disliked for that but he doesn't have any personal archenemies, he prefers it that way.

William: No, a few years ago he might have said Ben Wade but now he just feels annoyed by him but not the hatred he did before.

Jane: Tom's uncle and Lady Grantham, they both feel like they've gone out of their way to tell Jane that who she is, isn't right.

Sameth: Well, not his personal arch enemy but the two necromancers who tried to bring back Orannis are up there. They were against his home and thus against him.

Demeter: Not really, she doesn't have a lot of affection for her brothers but no real archenemies. Even with Hades, its not hatred more mutual dislike that they've found a compromise of how to live with it.

Tumnus: During the Long Winter, the White Witch and Fenris were people he was afraid of but it was never personal, not archenemy, more they were the enemies of Narnia.

The Pirate King: Not really, I mean lots of law abiding officers out there but no one in particular.
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[personal profile] road_to_calvary 2014-01-14 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Gene - yes. Jim Keats, who is also the devil.

That is not a euphemism. As for how he deals with it....um, not well? Gene's whole afterlife is built on denial, and being forced to see the truth is excruciating for him, and tends to threaten to destroy his whole world.

Bruce Wayne - crime. And the Joker. And Two-Face. And Bane. And Poison Ivy. And, himself. And...this could be a really, really long list. He mostly deals with it by ultimately being more badass than they are.

Bruce Banner - himself, always and forever.

Javert- himself.

Valjean - himself.

I am sensing a theme. OK, these last two are also at odds with each other, but it's really complicated. They don't hate each other. In canon, they both do what they do to live, and it so happens that this brings them into conflict. It's rarely personal, until the end. (Rarely. I won't say Javert doesn't display some rather overt satisfaction at the thought of catching him at one point. *ahem*) Anyway, in Milliways, when Javert has to actually face the results of Valjean's mercy, it has definitely become personal. And I imagine, will only get more so.
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[personal profile] thenewblack 2014-01-14 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Bruce Wayne - crime. And the Joker. And Two-Face. And Bane. And Poison Ivy. And, himself. And...this could be a really, really long list. He mostly deals with it by ultimately being more badass than they are.

And that would be the one where the usual solution rather falls down, wouldn't it?
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[personal profile] never_shall_yield 2014-01-14 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It does, rather. Hence why that's one arch-enemy he's never getting rid of.
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[personal profile] thenewblack 2014-01-14 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I have been away, dragged down in to Worm fandom.
It's depressing and upsetting and yet it has such a hold on me. Gah.
So much for what I was going to do over the break. Whoops?

List time!
Artemis: That would be a fairly complicated sort of situation with Cheshire and Sportsmaster. *waves at Thor* Family, you know?
Tyler Darrow: Um. Not as such no.
Ako: Her efforts in canon are stopped more by the environment than another person. Which is a shame, since canon is one of those settings where individual problems can be solved by punching people.
Robo: Helsingard. Doctor Dinosaur. Helsingard. (He's a Nazi cyborg, it bears repeating.)
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[personal profile] 1nv1nc1ble 2014-01-14 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I would imagine that a self-proclaimed time-traveling sauropod who also happens to be batshit fucking loco would bear repeating as well, but that's just me. :)

(Seriously, Doctor Dinosaur has all the crazy, and he ain't sharing.)
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[personal profile] thenewblack 2014-01-14 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
(All the crazy, and yet not enough, given the creature from outside time being summoned by two of the action scientists, or the numerous expeditions to the vampire dimension, or...)

Alas, the Doctor controls both the ebb *wham* and flow *louder wham* of the comments.

You can tell by the dents in the holding cell from the demonstrations.
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[personal profile] 12goingon113 2014-01-14 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Aang: At his point in canon? The entirety of the Fire Nation, sympathizers to the Fire Nation (We're looking at you Bei Fongs), Fire Lord Ozai, Princess Azula, Prince Zuko, Mai, and Ty-Lee.

Bumi: There's a Shark Squid that's always had it out for him. Some higher up muckity mucks in the United Forces that are displeased with him. Bumi'd also consider anyone who even THINKS about harming his family as arch enemies.

Mike, Raph, Splinter: The Foot Clan. Thaaaaaat might be pretty much it at this point.
Though...There's always Beau, Sallie's Ex-husband...

Ida: Everyone who isn't O2STK or the Middleman.

The Loompas: The Wonka, and vermicious knids.
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[personal profile] 1nv1nc1ble 2014-01-14 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Bumi: There's a Shark Squid that's always had it out for him.

Urge to app Bartholomew Quint rising.... :)
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[personal profile] pullsneedles 2014-01-14 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
ahahahahaha, let's start with Lohengrin because his arch enemies are the least complicated. On the big scale, he's up against the Monstrous Raven and his crows. This is going to end poorly for the Knight, as the whole purpose of his existence in Princess Tutu is to die. Cribbing from the opera, his lesser arch is a witch working for the Raven, filling the role of Ortrud in causing his Elsa's death. Lohengrin, at this point, not only knows he's going to die against the Raven but is kind of wishing it could happen sooner. He's not sure what he would like to do with the witch but he'll strike her somehow if given the opportunity.

Mia's arch was Ghaleon, her father figure/possible biological father/sort of avuncular type if that's how you'd rather go? Unlike the rest of the Five Heroes, except maybe Nash, Mia grew up around Ghaleon and had a personal relationship with him before he revealed his plans of godhood and world domination. Mia thinks often on him, especially since she's seen him a time or two in Milliways, and is still occasionally shaken by the conflict in their personal moralities. But there are times when she can remember him fondly.

Lucas has two arches, King Porky and the Masked Man. Porky is the one who orchestrated every tragedy that's come to Lucas and his family, all out of boredom. He doesn't know Lucas personally and regards the events of the game as just that, a game. He's having his fun watching Lucas and his friends struggle against his Pigmask Army. Lucas doesn't quite know what to make of Porky, stuck with anger, pity, and emptiness all somehow mixing inside. His feelings towards the Masked Man, however, are much clearer. Even if he's died and been reconstructed as a chimera, even if he can't feel anything anymore and can't remember who he is, even if he really is just Porky's puppet to pull the Needles, Lucas can't bring himself to strike Claus.
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[personal profile] gavin62truck 2014-01-14 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Tommy's arch enemy, predictably, is himself. His addiction, his self-destructive behavior. This is what puts him at odds with other people, especially his wife Janet. They're not exactly enemies, as they have a seriously dysfunctional love-hate relationship, where the love is indeed real and the hate is indeed deep. But they fight. A lot. Sometimes it turns physical, but in any case the abuse is hurled in both directions. For the both of them, this is the new normal, and no matter what they do, they can't fix their relationship. Usually because Tommy keeps fucking up (see aforementioned behavior).

While Tommy has lots of casual enemies-- most people like him but they still think he's a jerk, and there's almost nobody who Tommy hasn't had a fight with-- his boss, Chief Perrolli (who ranks higher than Chief Reilly, who's for the most part Tommy's ally), hates his guts. He thinks he's reckless and dangerous, which, to be fair, he is, and is constantly breathing down his neck about his alcohol and addiction issues. The more he tries to rein Tommy in, the more he rebels.

In Milliways, he doesn't have any real enemy-type enemies, just people who he dislikes and people who may dislike him. Molly Hayes, for example! Because instead of Tommy apologizing and being reasonable with her, he upped the sarcastic attitude and pissed her off even more. There's Autor, who he thinks is an irritating shit. There's the Waco Kid, who he also thinks is an irritating shit (there will be a reaction to the Christmas gift, I promise!) but he's learning to deal with some jealousy issues. And of course there's Voodoo. ...That one's complicated. They haven't spoken since their big fight, and now that Tommy knows all about the letter Voodoo gave to Kate, I'm not sure what would happen if they ever entered the same air space again. Perhaps a small army of Security people would have to intervene, perhaps not.
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[personal profile] runningred 2014-01-15 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Jay - the Joker for sure. If the Joker walked through the door, Jay would have a very hard time keeping to the rules of the Bar. And Bruce in a way but that's one of those complicated family issues.

Olivier/Daoud - has no enemies as yet. He's just too nice.
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2014-01-15 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, you tagged the last Charles' tag with Olivier, which is why I haven't tagged back.
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[personal profile] runningred 2014-01-15 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Fixed. Sorry!
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[personal profile] waco_jim 2014-01-15 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
Jim: Hedley Lamarr, whiskey, and himself.

Leela: No one in particular, but a series of whatever evils the Doctor runs into. Xoanon used to be an enemy, but he's better now.

Kane: GDI, and everyone who stands with them. Kane will not rest until they are destroyed and the old order is swept away. In Milliways, he's always gotten a kind of satisfaction at being able to avoid the abilities of Charles Xavier. He does not think much of him - too self-righteous and nowhere near ambitious enough.

Caius: Whoever the Empire's enemy is right now.

Garyn: Not yet, though Dagoth Ur, King Helseth, and the Camonna Tong loom large in his future. At the moment, his own guilt, bitterness, and loathing is his worst enemy. In Milliways, he and Javert have a kind of mutual "nuh-uh, yuh-huh" grumpfest going on, which is fun. I think Javert actually strikes more of a nerve in Garyn than he lets on.

Marge: Nah, she doesn't really have an archenemy. Not a whole lot of places where that could come up in Brainerd, particularly in a fairly realistic canon like Fargo. Also, she's pretty friendly. She's a bit suspicious of Jason Todd in Milliways, though.

Thenardier: He considers pretty much the whole damn world to be his enemy. Kill or be killed, steal or be stolen from. He has a particular animus against Valjean after he took Cosette and he didn't think to squeeze enough money out of him for it, though it's not like they would ever chance to meet again afterwards. What would the odds of that be?

Anyway, though Hugo himself would probably say that society itself creates the kind of darkness in which an infection like the Thenardiers can fester, most of their problems are a direct result of their own poor character. So they're their own worst enemies and don't realize it.
Edited 2014-01-15 07:17 (UTC)
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[personal profile] street_sparrow 2014-01-15 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
Meanwhile, Thenardier is probably the person Gavroche dislikes most actively in all the universes.

...Madame too, but not as much as Monsieur.