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Voodoo would be the product of buttsex between Zeus and Ares. His daemon is a honey badger named Maia.

John Marston would be the product of Apollo and a mortal woman. His daemon is a prairie dog named Adonia.

Mako...I have no idea. And Pabu is the closest thing he has to a daemon. (Though to be fair, the little guy is more Bolin's daemon.)

Connor's parentage would not be one of the Greco-Roman gods, that's for sure. As for his daemon...his game makes pains to associate him a lot with eagle and wolf references.

Edited 2014-02-19 19:30 (UTC)

Actually, Amascut does have divine parentage. Her father is the sun god Tumeken, who used to spend a lot of time as a falcon (sounds a lot like Ra and Horus, right?) and her mother is the river spirit Elidinis, who likes hippopotamii (which makes her sound a lot like Taweret). Both are life givers, and their children are the gods of death, naturally. Tumeken has been described in the literature as "He who gives life and punishes" and Elidinis as "She who gives life and soothes", but to me, Tumeken seem like the absent parent who has a crippling unsecurity about himself and his actions (though that may be just Amascut talking) and Elidinis can be scary and fierce. Her spirit animal is the hippo, of course, one of the most feared animals in Egypt and a regular killer of humans who wander to close.

I'll write about the rest later.

Edited 2014-02-19 14:20 (UTC)

Oh right, Amascut's daemon is a striped hyena named Yandu, after the legendary demon/smith

Fairy Fixit is objecting to the idea of divine parentage, but I'll say Hephaestus fits. I might have said Janus, but that fits the Fairy Queen more. As for a daemon... I don't really know why, but albatross.

The only deity of distraction I can find to pair Evil Chicken with is Echo. Which amuses me to no end for some reason.

It would be kind of silly to think up a daemon for Evil Chicken.

Given the Evil Chicken's function, if it did have a daemon, it would be the Interrupting Cow from the knock-knock joke.

Brilliant!

As it happens, the AU prompt DE that we did a while ago provided an answer for one of these; if this were the Percy Jacksonverse, and Santo had a divine parent, it'd be Mixcoatl. He was the mask-wearing god of the hunt and of the Milky Way and the father of a lot of sons, most of whom got killed by Huitzilopochtli, but his most famous son in legend was Quetzalcoatl, so that puts Santo in some fairly good company.

(I tried looking for Maya or Aztec gods particularly associated with athletics or sports, but other than the Hero Twins that's not easy to find, and they're more associated with the Great Ball Game anyway, which is its own animal altogether.)

Huitzilopochtli is such a fun name to say. It sounds almost Dr. Suessy, but WAR GOD.

Iiiiif Sunshine had divine parentage, she would be the child of one of the sun divinities (Sunna, Sol, Helios, Surya etc.) and a mortal.

Sunshine's daemon would be a honeybee named Mellifer. Honeybees are very social creatures, as well as fearless and aggressive defenders of their territory. Mellifer would be a help in Sunshine's acceptance of the non-baking-oriented side of her life, seeing the violence not as an attack on who she is but as a necessary evil. Something that must be done, a sacrifice for the greater good. Mellifer is from the scientific name for the western honeybee, Apis mellifera, from the Latin melli- "honey" and -ferre "to bear."

As for the other pups...

I spent a lot of time associating Gordon with Siva before we moved out of canon territory and pushed the HLverse into pure millicanon, but the only way you'd get a part-mortal kid out of Siva is if his mom got hold of the mantra used by Queen Kunti in the Mahabharata. Gordon's daemon is a tardigrade named Sati, who lives in a moss-lined glass marble or flat-sided test tube around his neck.

Shephard would have Tyr for a father and would probably get yelled at for following in Dad's footsteps re: the hand thing. At least until Dad saw the bitchin' new metal hand Shephard got, anyway. His daemon is a small swarm of honeybees, which constitute a single organism; I have previously said the swarm's name was Imre, but I have since found out that this is a man's name, so I'm not sure about that (the bees are all female).

Ellen would be the child of Munshin, the Korean god of doors; he is the protector of everyone who enters or leaves houses, or who relies on doors for safety and security, and there is a proverb about him that says "There is no construction that Munshin does not know." He also appears in one of Korea's epics to tell the hero character the names and uses of all the trails of the underworld, so that works fairly well for someone who grew up locked behind a thirteen-ton door and has a better sense of direction underground than above it. As for her daemon, he's a northern grasshopper mouse named Saoshyant.

Edward Kenway has such a thing for traveling and commerce and happily lying through his teeth that I'm pretty sure Hermes would have to be the one involved with his parentage. His daemon, quite naturally, is a jackdaw named Gwendolyn.

Medic is one of those kids that the less sociopathic gods just don't talk about, like, ever. His daemon is a crow named Mala.

Stacker.... *glances at the Thor movie* let's skip that. Stacker's divine parent would be Olokun, the Orisha of the deep ocean, who is associated with 'patience, endurance, sternness, observation, meditation, appreciation for history, future visions, and royalty personified'. Given that Olokun is worshipped as male or female depending on where you are in Africa, I don't know if Olokun would be his mother or his father. I'm not sure it matters. I'm gonna need some time to think about his daemon, though. I'm not really sure the RAF would be willing to take on a recruit with a Cape buffalo in tow, although it would explain why he trained in avionics and electronic warfare rather than becoming a pilot.

Hank's parent seems to be Hanuman and reading the wiki, I'd say it fits. His daemon is a raccoon named Scheherazade.

Jessica's is Freyja or so I keep thinking. My bet is this is due to her pheromones and her status as an accepted outsider. Her daemon I am not sure about.

Brimstone is not computing as far as divine parentage. His daemon is Kishmish, a bat-wnged, fork-tongued crow. I don't care that this doesn't fit the rules of the canon, it's all that is fitting with his.

Anton's parentage is proving problematic. Mokosh comes to mind since a he is part of raising two very powerful (possibly three if you count Olga's release) woman to their power. Then again Zirnitra is tempting as he's the dragon god of sorcery and Anton's power grows through the series. Veles is looking good as well, having magic and music as part of his purview. As to a daemon, I am burnt out on speculation. Maybe later.

Andrea, I am thinking is a daughter of Mars; violence with purpose coupled with virility. Given her marksmanship, I can see a good argument given for Apollo but she's too wound up. Her daemon would have to be a spotted hyena named Tristan. Don't know why Tristan, it just fits.

Mulan...first hit is Guan Yu, which seems to fit but I am not that familiar with Chinese deities. Her daemon is, of course, a little dragon named Mu Shu.

Guan Yu's pretty awesome. If you're ever watching a Hong Kong action movie that includes scenes in a police station, you'll see a statue of Guan Yu in there somewhere, pretty much guaranteed. And if you ever get the chance, sit down and watch the full length, five hour, subtitled version of Red Cliff. This is a clip of him in action before he was deified, although it's in Chinese and not subtitled, but I don't think you need to have subtitles to see the kind of guy he is when he's facing down his enemies and defending his leader's honor.

Very cool! And yes, this does fit Mulan pretty well. = ]

I may have another pup brewing in my skull who would totally be a child of Brigid as both a forger and a warrior. She's not so big on poetry but she appreciates it.

Claudia's a daughter of Hephaestus, obviously.

Thor, uh. We know this one quite well! *laughing*

For his daemon, I really really like

ashen_key's idea of a lioness. Golden and eye-catching, sociable, lives in prides, powerful hunter.

Enjolras gets enough canon comparisons to Themis, Greek goddess of divine justice (as opposed to human law), that I'm gonna go with that one for parentage. (Tempting as it is to declare him the son of the French Republic incarnate -- he does canonically call the Republic his mother!)

For a daemon, I am gonna ignore canonical eagle symbolism because a) it doesn't fit my ideas of either daemons or eagle behavior, and b) it's too Napoleon-associated anyway, and go with a wolf. Again, a powerful predator which is also a pack animal, and in this case there are associations with the founding of Ancient Rome, with soldiers, and (in his era) with being dangerous and outside society, which Enjolras is not inherently but he's willing to put himself there if it's needed. His would be golden and blue-eyed and generally striking, something like this. Part of me wants to declare his wolf daemon's name Marianne, but honestly I lean towards a male daemon for him.

River would be the daughter of... oh, gosh. Athena, maybe? I'm not sure Greek and Roman is the way to go here, but nothing else is immediately springing to mind. Anyone have other ideas?

Her daemon would be a mongoose. Cute, smart, social, vicious cobra-killing predator. Uh, I'm sensing a theme, here.

Regan is another one for whom I don't have an immediate idea. Some god or goddess associated with order, society, motherhood, and possibly scheming/manipulation -- definitely not a trickster sort, though. The social order part is important.

Her daemon would be something that's social and grooms itself a lot, and is fierce in a corner but not notably predatory or vicious otherwise. A housecat, a wren, something like that. He'd have a very traditional name, probably in Chinese.

Trowa wouldn't know his divine parentage, because he doesn't know his actual parentage either. Part of me wants to say Mithras because of the soldiers' cult thing, but I'm not sure that actually applies, and I'm not sure Greco-Roman is the way to go for him either. Hmmm. I'll ponder this; again, suggestions welcome.

His daemon would be either a snake or some kind of solitary, quiet cat. Not a lion, but maybe a leopard or something, or maybe a smaller kind of wild cat. She wouldn't have had a name either when he was a child. I don't think she'd've gotten the original Trowa Barton's daemon's name, though, even if they lied and said she did during canon, but I'm not sure what name she would have gotten later. She'd have one by postcanon, anyway.

Clare has the name of a goddess of love on her world, and honestly I'm inclined to say she's her daughter. If we're talking Earth pantheons... someone known for familial love, loyalty, stubborn grudge-holding, and ferocity. Virginity/chastity optional, but not someone associated with motherhood.

Last time there was a vaguely similar DE I got several good suggestions for her. I'm gonna go with a praying mantis. Pretty, a loner (for once), a slice-and-chomp ambush predator. Maybe this one, chosen from a quick scan of Wikipedia solely by appearance.

So... maybe Hera for Clare?

Mmmmmaybe, but Hera's a little too jealous -- Clare's not jealous, she's protective and vengeful -- and also Hera's associated with childbirth. I can't think of anyone in the Greek or Roman pantheon who really fits, although maybe there's a minor deity I've forgotten who'd work well.

If you wanna stick with Mediterranean deities for River, a case could be made for an Etruscan nymph named Vegoia. Assuming she was a deity and not merely a human prophetess, Vegoia handed down cryptic prophecies that became immensely important sacred books for interpreting the strokes of lightning- which kinda presses the 'see the sky, and remember' button. And apparently she revealed the laws of hydraulic works to humans, associating her with tamed waters- or controlled Rivers. So, uh, that's a thing.

OOOOOOOOOH.

Yeah, I really really like that. I like that a lot. Vegoia it is! I know nothing about Etruscan deities, but she sounds excellently fitting in a number of ways.

For Clare, how about Frigg? Although you are more than welcome to stick with her native world's gods.

Oh, huh! I hadn't even thought of that. Maybe, though, yeah.

I'd think Hera for Regan, based on the attributes you've mentioned.

Huh, yeah! I wasn't thinking of Hera because my first thought with her is always all the infidelity/jealousy shenanigans back and forth with Zeus, but in looking at the attributes you're right. And there's no reason why a child of whatever divinity it is has to have the exact same responses and plotlines. So yeah, that could totally work.

As for the rest of mine:

Cata, Sam, Imp and Red are all working from non-Earth pantheons.

I'm not sure Regulus truly ports over. If he had the looks for it I'd go with Athena, but he decidedly doesn't look like one of Athena's kids.

Apollo, of course, is a son of Zeus, so for once your argument is not invalid!

And Woolly is refusing to play along, for which I can't really blame him.

I've never known from daemons, honestly.

I hesitate to do this because she Is Not Magical and it's waaay outside her cultural context, but if Hephaestus and Aphrodite had actually had a child, she would've looked something like Asami.

And Marceline's dad is sort of Lucifer-ish. So I guess that kinda counts.

Gaeta was dedicated to Asclepius when he was born, in one of those "well, we're not really religious, but it would be nice to have a doctor in the family" ways. From a purely medicine/healer perspective, though, it doesn't quite fit him; he'd probably do better as a son of Athena.

Like a lot of people whose inclination is to follow authority, his daemon is a dog: a corgi, to be exact. Corgis are fiercely loyal herding dogs, which fits a guy who served as head Officer of the Watch for most of his tenure aboard Galactica -- and a guy willing to commit mutiny for the sake of loyalty to the human race.

As Jack said, Bolin's practically got a daemon already in the form of Pabu. I decided some while back that Olivia's daemon is a female brown bear: largely solitary, also fiercely protective (especially of her family), and same-gendered to play with the idea of Olivia's Cortexiphan-induced powers, as Pullman said same-gendered daemons can indicate extraordinary abilities like "second sight."

I might come back later to throw in more stuff about divine parentage! (Also, we should totally do a daemon plot sometime, y/y?)

Edited 2014-02-19 18:28 (UTC)

Yes to daemon plot. :D

Thirding the idea!

I'm totally intrigued by the daemon plot idea now, yeah!

The only thing that gives me pause is that the idea of having the daemons go away again after a few days is hard to reconcile with HDM canon, particularly without a sense of loss. But I'm sure the plot could be arranged to minimize that.

I've been thinking on the how of this, off and on, since yesterday and all I can think of is some sort of spell that causes a temporary thing and that they are not true HDM daemons. Sort of a true seeing spell that goes too far or some Trickster shenanigans or something. More illusion or a conjuring than an actual spirit/soul splitting from the body.

Hm, I'm not sure about Will, I could see him being connected to Thor but also someone like Herne.

Charles is a child of Athena and I think his daemon might be an owl.

Sameth though he's from another world would be a child of Hephaestion.

Ivan, I think would be of either Aphrodite or Ares.

William, I'm not sure.

Moist is a child of Hermes though he is a patron of Anoia, goddess of things stuck in drawers.

Jane, I think Athena.

Demeter is herself.

I don't know about Tumnus and the Pirate King is a child of Hermes.

I'd love any ideas anyone else has especially in terms of daemons, love the idea, always get stuck picking them.

Edited 2014-02-19 18:35 (UTC)

Yugo would be the son of Amaterasu and Konohanasakuya-hime, the latter being the (demi-ish)goddess of flowers and delicate earthly life. They're gods, he can totally have two mums. His daemon would be a kestrel named Sayuri.

Sherral would be the son of Bellona, the Roman goddess of war, and a mortal. I've remarked before that his daemon would be an alsatian, but actually it would probably be a Siberian Husky called Bratha.

Wan would be the son of Sun Wukong and a mortal. His daemon would be a catdeer called Mula what a coincidence.

Anyone familiar with Celtic deities is welcome to come up with a combination for Tommy. Qualities would include fire, promiscuity, and alcohol.

I know there was a DE a while ago where I came up with Tommy's daemon, which would be an Irish wolfhound, but damned if I can find it, and damned if I can remember her name. I do know that she would be have a typical wolfhound personality, very sweet, laid back, and almost lazy as a contrast to Tommy, although also fiercely loyal and protective. She'd be his conscience, reminding him to do the right thing and to take it easy once in a while.

The Dagda is very tempting to suggest but Tommy would definitely be something of a black sheep as I don't think the Dagda has anything like TOmmy's attitude. = ]

I found the DE, but you didn't give her a name in it.

I could've sworn I gave her a name that meant "small" or "sweet" or something like that in Gaelic. Now it's going to bug me even more!

Sadb means 'sweet,' and Rathnait means 'little graceful one,' according to behind the name.

I've often joked that Raph's Daemon is Jack Daniels, and Mike's is Jimmy Buffet.

Bumi's would be BumJu, obviously.

Aang has Appa, though...it makes it weird that other people ride on the bison, because that's a No no. Maybe the Air Nomads can separate themselves from their daemons the way that Witches can? Who knows?

Given that Appa got captured and taken away from him, which is a massively major nono in Pullman and considered almost as much of an atrocity as intercision itself, perhaps Momo is a little more like it?

Quite possibly given the nature of Appa's kidnapping.
If it was just Long Feng, then I could see it, but....I can't imagine anyone in that universe being entertained by a circus performing daemon without a human. Even if they could be separated. That seems grotesque upon indecency.

Hm. I'm going to stretch things a bit and say that Ibani's 'divine' parent would be the Force. (If they're going to imply that's what happened with Anakin Skywalker there's no reason it couldn't happen more than once, right? *G* )

As for a daemon, I'm leaning toward a venemous serpent of some kind. Possibly a rattlesnake."

*points to icon* Nat's daemon is a Siberian Forest Cat (a.k.a. those huge fluffy domestic cats that tend to act a lot like dogs). Big, ridiculously fluffy fur hiding a massive, solid, very athletic body, very smart and sociable, and yet, still a cat with all that implies. And his name is Ilariy, which is the Russian form of 'Hilary', meaning 'cheerful', because I love irony.

~~Gods and things are not computing this morning. Uh, suggestions?~~ Natasha's a child of Freyja, who is the Viking goddess "associated with love, sexuality, beauty, fertility, gold, seiðr [magic], war, and death". And her chariot is pulled by two giant Norwegian Fairy cats, who look a looot like Siberians.

Edited 2014-02-19 21:57 (UTC)

Heh, I pegged Freyja for Jessica too. Guess those two are sisters after all. ; p

Heeee, clearly!

Eriond has no semi about his divinity. His dad is the God UL, the Father of the Gods, and his mom's the Universe, the mother of the Gods and everything else. Also, his daemon is a male horse named Horse.

Henry is kind of giving me trouble, and for some reason my gut reaction says ‘Hermes.’ I welcome thoughts. His daemon is too young to have settled, and I am torn on her name—either Taika (magic or spell in Finnish) or Matilda (for any number of reasons).

Lois I'm actively resisting assigning any divine parentage--or even legacy-ness a la PJO--just because Lois-as-regulation-human is so thematically vital. I could accept an argument for her having some vague family past involving Clio, the muse of history (I figure it's the closest to her schtick), or if you really wanted one of the big names, a generations-back thing involving Athena. But directly, Lois ought to be human. Her daemon is an ocelot named Evander.

Tavi, as usual, exasperates me. The quick-and-dirty answer, for the sake of the exercise, is probably Athena (NOT Minerva despite my desire to stick to Roman incarnations, but stuff and things). It just doesn’t feel quite right, though, partly because while being human is not nearly as thematically critical for him as for Lois, there are still definite shades. On the other hand, my brain enthusiastically endorses the idea that there were some demigods in the Legion that eventually became the Alerans, meaning the high-ranking houses (especially the 12 main ones) are all legacies (according to my research, divine ancestor but not parent) and a bunch of them eventually married into the House of Gaius, explaining the myriad and disparate gifts which seem to have gotten concentrated in them (I’ve got a list already and could start plotting out which came from where, not joking).

Leaving the Greco-Roman pantheon aside, I do have a theory that there was some outside influence on the House of Gaius genetics at some point, conscious or not, from the closest Alera comes to having a deity. No parentage exactly (although the First Lord—whoever he is—always has a bizarre relationship with Alera-the-Great-Fury and I’m sure at least one of them was outright in love with her) but… something’s definitely up.

Oh yeah, and his daemon is a European hunting cat named Proserpina (speaking of Greco-Roman gods).

Bean is an Athena kid through and through. His daemon hasn't settled yet.

Max is a son of Thoth. No idea what his daemon would be.
Jack is a son of Horus, and his daemon would be a Peregrine Falcon (called Horus, for reasons).
I went for Egyptian gods because of the mythology of their world.

Alfred is a son of Vesta, His daemon would probably be a British bulldog, both because servants are associated with dogs in HDM, and because they're tough, rugged, and more than capable of taking out someone larger than themselves.

Erik is a son of Odin. Which, as was mentioned in chat, puts a rather hilarious spin on Thor, The Avengers and Thor 2...
And, his daemon would probably be a raven, because again, symbology.

I was just thinking about daemons yestersay, so we'll go with that one...

- Shawn's was a little hard to figure out, but raccoon seems to fit him best.

- Fry's daemon is an otter, for reasons I no longer remember.

- Dean's is a rabbit. ... I may have an entire Venture Bros. daemon AU headcanon. >.>

- ... I want to say Comet is Brisco's, but for reasons mentioned elsewhere, that doesn't really work. Horse does seem to fit, though.

Edited 2014-02-20 04:05 (UTC)

I've literally only seen this DE ten minutes ago. I fail.

Sariel... I'm not honestly sure who she'd be connected to, Greco-Roman pantheon or otherwise. I liked the description of Olokun upthread for a possible connection... hmm.

As for her daemon, I've had the idea in my head for a while that he's called Alexandre, though that's not set in stone. His shape definitely isn't; has anybody got a suggestion? Part of me says small bird, but that's almost too expected a choice.

Becky and I talked about this fairly recently, ironically enough!

Clementine: A peacock. A strutting, glamorous bird. And she'll always be a child of Bacchus and Aphrodite all mixed together.

Dix: Becky suggested a robin, which makes sense for her: a migrant songbird who can find a home anywhere.

Juliet: A pitbull, a fiercely protective nanny dog.

Pinkie: Is already a horse; I guess the animal companions they have in canon might already be daemon-like. So Gummy for her!

Eponine: The wolf; the solitary hunting figure. Not terribly good at capturing the romantic side of her - though I also considered the hoopoe.

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