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bjornwilde ([personal profile] bjornwilde) wrote in [community profile] ways_back_room2014-10-06 07:22 am
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 And I'm back. Many thanks to [personal profile] tire_moi_mes_bottes  and [personal profile] last_kallig for coving the daily entertainments last week. All the internet cookies for you!

Onto the topic! Today's comes from [personal profile] sunbaked_baker :
Who does your character consider to be their nemesis?
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[personal profile] shinyhappygoth 2014-10-06 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Enzo doesn't exactly have one right now. His family's nemesis was Megabyte, and Dani's is Vlad Masters/Plasmius, whom he therefore considers his by association. However, both are currently out of the picture, as Megabyte is in the Web and Vlad is in one of those specially-designed super-security jail cells.

Zecora is not really the kind
to have a nemesis, I find,
aside from those, as fate may befall,
who are the enemy of all.
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[personal profile] leeshajoy 2014-10-06 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I figured Zecora's nemeses would be the colors orange, purple, and silver. :)
Edited (That should really be plural, shouldn't it.) 2014-10-06 16:11 (UTC)
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[personal profile] leeshajoy 2014-10-06 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Just because you've defeated it doesn't make it not a nemesis!
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[personal profile] shinyhappygoth 2014-10-06 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
This much is true!
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[personal profile] hecu_marine 2014-10-06 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know that Gordon necessarily considered the G-Man his nemesis so much as a Very Great Problem To Be Avoided, although he bordered on it. The only other candidate for the position was Dr. Breen.

Shephard, on the other hand, has always considered Big G a nemesis. Gordon killed a lot of his brother Marines, yes, but the greyfaced sheepfucking dog bastard shit in a suit detained Shephard at Black Mesa while all the others who were able evacuated the site, and then set off the nuclear weapon that Shephard just barely managed to defuse- and made him watch. Shephard does not forgive that kind of thing, and if by some freak of chance he ever sees the greyfaced sheepfucking dog bastard shit in a suit again, he will put his metal hand through the back of the G-man's skull. While he is talking to him.

Everyone who could ever have been considered Ellen's nemesis is dead. (With the possible exception of Lord Ashur, but Lord Ashur was too reasonable to be a nemesis; she draws her definition of the term from comic books.)

Medic would prefer to consider his opposite number on RED's pay his nemesis but that Gottverdammt Pyro keeps coming after him for no clear reason, every. Single. Time. So, yeah, there's that.

Varric doesn't have a nemesis at the moment and I am not sure it will really reach that level; enemy, maybe, but not nemesis. Hawke is the one who gets nemeses.

El Santo doesn't have a single nemesis per se, as his canon is all over the place. Given the number of movies in which he fights supernatural evil, there may be an elder vampire somewhere who qualifies, should Santo ever find out.

Stacker's nemesis is everything that lives in the kaiju masters' dimension, ever. Although in his more cynical moments he considers the term equally applicable to anybody and everybody who voted to defund the Jaeger program in favor of the bloody Wall.

Edward hasn't really got one yet. He's working on it!
Edited 2014-10-06 15:34 (UTC)
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[personal profile] street_sparrow 2014-10-06 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Athelstan - doesn't have one as such. Floki is the closest, but it's complicated.
Ichabod Crane (TV version) - Moloch, or more personally the Headless Horseman
Nancy (Doctor Who) - ...Hitler? If you can have a nemesis you've never met.
Gavroche and Roshaun - the Lone Power
Giovanni Bruni - Inquisitor Pucci, and by extension the whole Inquisition. He will devote the rest of his life to thumbing his nose at them with great joy.
Michael Carpenter - The Knights of the Blackened Denarius and most of all Anduriel. Not, and this is an important distinction, Nicodemus.
Jonathan Levinson - I'm not entirely sure he has one in particular.
Edited 2014-10-06 16:13 (UTC)
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[personal profile] 1nv1nc1ble 2014-10-06 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Mark doesn't really think he has one, really. He might consider his father his nemesis, but like Ellen, he's drawing on comics for context, and he doesn't think of his father in that fashion. He might consider himself to be Omni-Man's nemesis, except that Omni-Man hasn't done anything for him to counter. Yet.

Eventually, he might consider the Viltrumite Empire to be his nemesis, but that's some time down the line. At this point, he hasn't even met another Viltrumite, so the idea of an invading empire of extraterrestrial Nietzcheans is sort of abstract.
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[personal profile] genarti 2014-10-06 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Thor: other people would likely say Loki, but MCU!Thor has never seen him that way -- he firmly refuses to, because Loki is his brother and he loves him in spite of everything. (Doesn't forgive him everything, but that's different.)

Enjolras: the easy answer is The Monarchy or something, and that's not totally wrong, but 'nemesis' is too personal a framework to be accurate, really. Enjolras is setting himself against injustice and despotism and inequality and so forth, but not at all as a lone warrior or as someone personally wronged -- that's the opposite of the point. I don't think I can come up with a nemesis for him, because of how his entire approach to the world works. He sees any opportunity to be a Great Man And Lone Hero as something to go NOPE to and flee back towards consensus-based populism.

Cosette: has too easy a life for this! I guess Mme. Thénardier once upon a time, but she doesn't remember that currently. I dunno, Things That Make Papa Or Marius Sad?

Clare: Priscilla. Priscilla ALL THE WAY. This is a bitter, all-consuming, and extremely one-sided vengeance quest.

Trowa: Doesn't really have one. Is probably too pragmatic to have one, really! There are some other Gundam pilots who had more of an I WILL FACE THEM AND DESTROY THEM IN FAIR COMBAT attitude, and Trowa was always like, "Or... one of us could just shoot them from behind...?? Uh okay if it matters that much to you, I guess." You could have argued for Une, once upon a time, but I don't think he had quite the right kind of personalized antagonism towards her for it to count.

River: Discordia! Thanks, Roland Deschain. The Academy in general, and anyone who had any major/knowing role in running it. (Many of those people are now dead or have lost all power, by Millicanon developments.) Other than that, I'm not sure there are any current individuals -- Raguel was one for a while, Jubal Early ditto, but both of them are for different reasons off the list.

...Maybe Nic Rosse. Maybe. That one's extremely complicated, mostly because he outguns her by a whole lot.

Regan: Also the Academy thing. And some Millicanon political opponents whose names I'm blanking on right now.
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[personal profile] death_gone_mad 2014-10-06 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Amascut: Icthlarin, her brother. Everything is his fault.

I doubt Fairy Fixit has a nemesis. The closest might by the orc K'Chunk, or rather the orcs that shoved K'Chunk into a teleporter. Silly orcs, so orcky.
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[personal profile] venusadept_2 2014-10-06 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Alex.

I'm not certain, at this point, that Felix actually has a real sense of what Alex did any more, just that he betrayed him.
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2014-10-06 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Will: The Sheriff though nemesis is odd as it wasn't as personally tied as it could have been. Sir Guy could work as well.

Charles: No one, he really doesn't like the idea of a nemesis or an enemy of that level. He knows that Shaw is Erik's nemesis and it worries him as he doesn't see anyway for things to end cleanly.

Ivan: No one in particular except for general enemies of Barrayar. I need to play him more.

Moist: Anyone trying to arrest him.

William: At one point, he might have said Ben Wade but even that was never simple, now I don't think there is anyone.

Sameth: Earlier in canon, the Necromancer but that was more about protecting the Old Kingdom than personal feelings.

Jane: Tom's uncle and Lady Catherine, all she wants to do is marry the man she loves and write. It shouldn't be that hard.

Demeter: Hades but its better now than it used to be between them.

Tumnus: The White Witch but that was more a general she's hurting Narnia, he was never important enough for her to notice.

The Pirate King, who has been retired as of this apping round, the Major General and the police.

For the new pup that I apped this round, Quentin, it depends a lot on where in the books he is but a lot of it comes down to people who try to hurt Toby.
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[personal profile] i_am_your_host 2014-10-06 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Nazis! And the real world outside the Kit Kat Klub's walls.
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[personal profile] runningred 2014-10-07 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
You should take Jay visiting some time. He'd love to kick some Nazis for Emcee.
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[personal profile] inlovewithwords 2014-10-06 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Henry is interestingly bad at having a nemesis, or at least someone who has uncomplicated enough a relationship to him to really consider such.

Eriond definitely doesn't have anyone he feels intensely against enough for that, especially with the other Prophecy gone. He doesn't hate.

Lois currently doesn't really have one, I think; her thing against Lex isn't strong enough yet. But one day, Lex.

Tavi is, as ever, complicated and frankly terrifying. His one enemy post-canon is just a political headache. I am going by the post-canon, as he'll be there by November. As for those who qualify...
- One (primary assassin) was charisma'd into loyal-unto-death friendship and service (but is temporarily crucified by Tavi).
- One was semi-brainwashed and semi-charisma'd into loyal service.
- Two who should have been got somewhat preempted by charisma and now often take orders from him.
- Two fade away and before that started taking orders from his aunt and uncle.
- Eight were murdered or killed in battle, all but one by close friends or blood family, almost all directly for love of Tavi (and one for Septimus).
- Four get killed by Tavi personally.

A lot of what he does is pure necessity, too--but actual nemeses/major antagonists end loyal to him or die in extreme emotional and physical pain. In the final reckoning Tavi doesn't really have nemeses.
Edited (Even higher body count...) 2014-10-06 19:38 (UTC)
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[personal profile] herr_bookman 2014-10-06 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Dr. Lecter.
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[personal profile] runningred 2014-10-07 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
Jay - the Joker. He'll kill that man one day. I just can't let him do it before the canon writers do and that's never going to happen.

Olivier - right now? Alain le Gaucher. The man who turned on his fellows and stabbed Olivier.

David - The person who betrayed his team during the war. A name he'll some day find out. If he just keeps digging.

Minx - not anyone really. Perhaps Blackjack Benelli who was responsible for the murder of Rex Racer.

Diaval - He should be loyal and say King Stefan but the farmer who was going to kill him comes higher on the list.
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[personal profile] tire_moi_mes_bottes 2014-10-07 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Bossuet has canonically made friends with his nemesis, Bad Luck, and now they're pretty chill together. Probably if you asked him, he'd list the law professor Blondeau as his secondary nemesis, but that's a more casual thing.

Gredya's not the nemesis type. There are a few people she would like to see dead. By the end of her canon, some of them are dead!
Edited 2014-10-07 18:57 (UTC)
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[personal profile] merryeccentricities 2014-10-08 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely Those Fools At The Academy. Joly KNOWS medicine doesn't have all the answers, but are purgatives really the solution to everything? Or mercury? And they laughed at him for his theories! (they totally did.) Well he's going to- uh, not much, actually, on account of the "being dead" thing, but he WAS totally going to show them, show them all! With well-supported research and convincing data!
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[personal profile] filemyclaim 2014-11-11 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Clementine: Anyone who's morally self-righteous or anti-drugs. On the force, she's involved in a constant rivalry with Raineesha for Jonesy's affection.

Dixie: Dolly. Dollllyyy Dolly Dolly. From their early youth onward, her sister's been her main rival in all things.

Pinkie: Pinkie has mostly temporary rivals, the most major one being Gilda the Griffon.

Juliet: Aaha - numerous high school rivalries.

Eponine: Definitely Cosette, though that's a moot point now.