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bjornwilde ([personal profile] bjornwilde) wrote in [community profile] ways_back_room2014-11-11 07:15 am
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DE: Got an degree and everything

Let's talk education. How much schooling has you character completed? Is it typical for their canon? Did they enjoy school? Do they wish they could go back?
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[personal profile] master_bruce 2014-11-11 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Gene - left with a few O'Levels at age 15. He's smart enough to go to whatever academic level, but he doesn't set any store in academia at all and left as soon as he could.

Javert - virtually none, which is typical of his canonical social standing. He can read and write, but even above age forty canon has him forcing himself to read so that 'he might not be completely illiterate'.

Valjean - almost entirely self-educated, but he's done a pretty good job of it. He was illiterate until the age of forty, when he took lessons in prison. When he was released and broke parole, he read tons and as a mayor, had to learn a bunch about law and the mechanics of politics, etc. You'd have to look really hard to notice his peasant beginnings.

Bruce Wayne - dropped out of Princeton, so he doesn't have a degree. He didn't see the point, when his aim in life clearly lay elsewhere. Anyway, he doesn't need bits of paper, he's ridiculously intelligent.

Bruce Banner - highest education level possible and yep, he loved it. It's pretty typical of his canon, seeing as there seems to be geniuses everywhere. Yeah, he wishes he could go back, seeing as working at the University was his vocation before the Hulk happened.

Robin Longstride - just about none, though he can read and write so he must have had someone teach him at some point. He's from 12th century England though, so a peasant like him being able to read isn't a given.

Courfeyrac - he was at University when he died. He loved it, but not because of the work exactly. Being a student was more a lifestyle than something to be completed. Nearly all his friends were students, and very few seemed in any hurry to complete their studies.

Pearly - again, little. He grew up on the street, and probably only stayed for a few years before he was making his way on his own. No, doesn't miss it. He's too crazy for all that shit and anyway, his destiny lay elsewhere.
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[personal profile] tire_moi_mes_bottes 2014-11-11 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually getting your law degree would be so uncool. Evidence: Marius Pontmercy did it.
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[personal profile] master_bruce 2014-11-11 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Awwww, poor Marius. He gets such a rough deal.

APART FROM NO, NO HE DOESN'T BECAUSE HE IS A DOOFUS.
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[personal profile] merryeccentricities 2014-11-11 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Marius Pontmercy: The Dork Who Lived.


...and now I can't decide if Marius being a wizard would be the most ridiculous thing ever, or if it would actually explain an awful lot.
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[personal profile] master_bruce 2014-11-11 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
HAHAHA. Oh man, he would be so dangerous as a wizard. He'd be worse than Neville. It'd be hilarious.

(I so want to think nicely of him, but...no.)
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[personal profile] a1enzo 2014-11-11 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Enzo completed his training at the Guardian Academy, and before that, whatever sprites call elementary school. (I don't think we ever settled on a name for it for certain; alpha programming, perhaps?) I suspect this is fairly typical in that, what with the whole business with formats and functions, it's normal for sprites to end their general education early (from an American perspective, anyway). He found his early schooling about as boring as most human children do, but was much more engaged at the Academy. He does somewhat miss it, though mostly on the boring days at work.
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[personal profile] i_am_your_host 2014-11-11 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
The Master of Ceremonies has had no formal schooling, being a child of the streets, but he was taught to read and write by the prostitutes and performers who took him in and raised him. With actors and artists rotating in and out of his life, he read plays, poetry, the Classics, notable literature, etc. He learned things from more well-educated people that he'd met during his time spent working in theaters and nightclubs, sort of cobbling together a knowledge base of random subjects, most of which he could pretend to be well-informed about. As far as he's concerned he never needed school.
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[personal profile] merryeccentricities 2014-11-11 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Unlike certain of his friends,(hello, you law school slackers) Joly hasn't extended his studies unreasonably far-- medical school was an intense and very seasonal process, and it doesn't seem to have been too uncommon to skip a semester here and there, even without the odd revolution to work around (and heck, the combat experience was actually work-study for him, if unofficial). So he's very well educated, in a very specific field,for his time. Going back-- augh, there's things he misses about that life, but standing over a winter-cold cadaver going "Maybe it was miasmas?!?" is not one of them. He'll take the Library over his era's med school, no problem.
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[personal profile] filemyclaim 2014-11-11 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Clem Dropped out of high school and ran away from home to become a dancer in Branson. Then she tried to drop back into community college to learn a new trade, but only ended up racking up bills. Which is how she became a cop.

Dixie Received a slightly-better than rudimentary education, which is what women of her era would have been taught. Convent girls are taught to read, write, and do arithmetic, all skills Dix put to good use as a bankrobber :p

Juliet: Completed high school and was top at the police academy.

Pinkie: Completed up to the pony equivalent of high school. I think she didn't attend the pony equivalent of culinary school and was trained on-site by the Cakes.

Eponine: Was likely taught (very little) by her mother at the Inn, as women were not educated publically in her time.
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[personal profile] halfemptyglasses 2014-11-11 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Mirai has completed her elementary schooling and is currently debating whether or not she'll stay alive long enough to bother with secondary schooling. Since it's not mandatory and she'll need a job if she does stay alive, she probably won't regardless of whether she actually wants to go. She'll go anyway.

Lucas and Claus were homeschooled as per my headcanon when they weren't helping with the chores. Lucas probably knows more about how to take care of sheep than he does any formal schooling. Milliways has taught him that he could go to school if he likes, but school doesn't always make for good people.

Lohengrin, in keeping with all of my answers for him, is educated precisely the way one expects a Knight to be. But to be more concrete, his education was likely done privately with a tutor, as befitting the son of a great knight as close to the royal family as they are. That is, when his father wasn't teaching him. But I can see him enjoying different learning settings. He'd probably like going to college and engaging classmates in debate.

Mia is an interesting case in that she's lived at her school pretty much her entire life. Her family founded the Magic Guild, the largest school on Lunar, and has run it and the city of Vane under their matriarchy. So she grew up with the Ausa family education, privately taught by the Guildmaster at the time (that is, her mother) and the Premier of Vane. She didn't particularly enjoy it, but not for lack of love towards learning. She didn't care for being lonely and wanted to take classes with the other students. Now that she's a teacher and a parent, she thrives on this side of education. She'll probably keep doing it for the rest of her life.
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[personal profile] camwyn 2014-11-11 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Gordon has a PhD in theoretical physics, completed in 1999. His thesis paper was canonically titled "Observation of Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Entanglement on Supraquantum Structures By Induction through Nonlinear Transuranic Crystal of Extremely Long Wavelength (ELW) Pulse from Mode-Locked Source Array." He is looking forward to the day when he and Alyx can step back from the politics/rebuilding thing and he can just go back to studying and teaching physics.

Shephard has a high school diploma from Preston County High School, because the Rowlesburg local high school was essentially destroyed in the floods of 1989. He went straight to the recruiting office in Elkins the day after graduating. To some degree he now regrets that, not because he particularly liked school (he was a B student at best, only putting effort into the subjects he actually liked) but because it would probably have helped with the whole rebuilding-from-scratch thing if he'd had more schooling to build on. Also having command of a nuclear powered icebreaker has left him seriously wishing for at least a trip through OCS or something... at least he has the education drilled into him by the Scout Sniper School in Quantico, which is more in-depth than the other Scout Sniper training locations.

Ellen had what amounted to a one-room schoolhouse education, like everyone else in Vault 101, with the added benefit of her father teaching her to read from his medical texts. When she turned sixteen she was sent to on-the-job training with the Vault's chaplain instead. This education was not finished due to canon, but when she eventually joined the Brotherhood of Steel she got that particular gap filled in by Knight-Captain Colvin. She would, I think, like the opportunity to learn a bit more from books and such, but otherwise she's aware that she has more education than 95% of the Capital Wasteland and is not gonna complain.

Stacker Pentecost... *sigh* The novelization says he went to military school at age 12, which is not how it happens in England, but whatever. I'm just skipping over that as fast as I possibly can and going straight to RAF officer training and education at Leuchars, with a side helping of him having studied some form of formal martial arts somewhere along the way. He's fine with the education he's got. It has allowed him to punch giant monsters in the face.

El Santo is not from a canon that mentions his education. I have millicanoned that he grew up at a school for orphans run by a very nice order of nuns, and that he completed the required amount of education under Mexican law before taking his size and strength into professional wrestling. The rest of his education has been absorbed via osmosis because the man has scientist friends everywhere he turns. Not even kidding.

Edward Kenway got some home schooling and may have been sent to some form of school for children of the laboring class- I looked up the education expectations for his time frame once. He can read, he can navigate, he's good. Schooling is for other people.

BLU Medic went to a pretty good medical school but there is no proof of this because he and his chief rival inadvertently reenacted the Reichstag Fire trying to ruin each other by destroying portions of the school's archives. Medic does enough field research these days that he really doesn't care about academia. As long as he gets to bitchslap Death he's fine.

Varric got education from private tutors, since his family was originally noble caste before Dad screwed with the outcome of a Proving match and got them all exiled. He's fine with what he's got, since it taught him to read and write really well, and to keep good accounts for the family businesses.
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[personal profile] fairy_fixit 2014-11-11 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Fairy Fixit received a PhD in Teleportation Systems Engineering from PoxStead College. That was 200 years ago or so; I think she has gotten past missing it.

That specific degree is fairly uncommon, since I think only the Fairy Queen and the Coordinator have a comparable knowledge of teleportation. That's among the fairies that show up in game, anyhow. There are human, Dorgeshuun goblins, and gnome wizards/scientists researching the subject and I am sure the Gatekeepers/Mindslayers and the Otherworldly Beings hanging around Zanaris are knowledgeable about it as well. Oh, Mahjarrat and demons are skilled at it and then there are gods, but I very much doubt they treat teleportation as a topic that deserves the higher education treatment. It's more of a life skill.

Advanced educations aren't common in canon either. There are doctors of such-and-such here and there, archaeologists, historians, researchers of this-and-that, but still, not common at all. Most people are literate, and that is for a very wide definition of people that includes cats for crying out loud. Otherwise, the game's setting is Medievalish Europe on the cusp of the Enlightenment.
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[personal profile] electro_kinetic 2014-11-11 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Noriko dropped out of school around thirteen years old and stayed out of it for a good six years, until she got to Xavier's; she actually studied there for only a short while before, well, the events of most of the New X-Men comics happens. That's not to say she's unintelligent; yes, geniuses do abound in the Marvel universe, but Nori isn't one of them.

Ganymede got almost zero formal education as a child, it being a long-ass time ago and public education not being something he was really interested in. He has however gone back to school several times over to keep up with things in the modern world. He's never gotten a degree, and has no desire to, but he's smart enough concerning a variety of subjects to get along.
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2014-11-11 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Will didn't have much education before coming to Milliways as he was a peasant but in Milliways, he learned to read and write. Its not something that comes easily to him but he's getting more practice as he is one of the men who can so he sometimes takes on clerking duties.

Charles has a doctorate from Oxford, an undergraduate degree from somewhere prestigious, though I don't know exactly from where and attended a posh prep school. He loves learning.

Quentin has been educated as a page and a Fae which is fairly well and even spent some time in a human high school. He's smart and likes learning.

Ivan was well educated for a Barrayaran as he attended the service academy and before that the best schools. He likes being on top of things but he's not like Miles where he has to be the best in all he does.

Sameth attended Somersby academy in Ancelstierre and was educated as a prince in the Old Kingdom and he's someone who likes to take things apart and figure out how they work.

William has had a basic public education and he likes reading so he's learned more from that. He would have liked to have done more but its not possible for him.

Jane has had a good education for her time as her father wanted his daughters to be educated. She knows French and possibly some Latin and is an avid reader.

Moist had a decent education for a human in Uberwald as he was gentry and curious but he ran away from home at the age of 16 and he's picked up a lot in his work. He has a good ear for languages and accents and is a master forger.

Demeter is a goddess so doesn't really count as she can learn whatever she wants but she's best with nature.

Tumnus had good education for the fact he grew up during the Long Winter. His father tried to teach him a lot and they had books, its something he's kept up. He's intelligent but nothing amazing.
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[personal profile] isawit 2014-11-12 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Something else I want to mention for Selina is that I keep thinking she has a learning disability, though I am not sure what it is. I need to look into such and figure out what she's telling me. I'm inclined to think it has something to do with visualizing things she can't see but I don't know if that is a thing.
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[personal profile] student_of_impossibility 2014-11-12 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I would actually rather expect that is not the kind of disability she has. She's going to be a fantastic cat-burglar, and honestly I rather expect that the prep for that means needing to look at the plans and figure out how the inside's more or less going to look before going in.

There's also security guard patterns, other security system things... no, I'd rather expect it isn't a visualization problem.

One that might be interesting as contributing factor: there's the flip side to dyslexia, which is called dysgraphia. There's several different forms it can take, but the interesting thing about it is that while it doesn't make it any harder to read, it makes writing by hand incredibly frustrating and on occasion impossible. People often don't think about it, but it's a thing.
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[personal profile] student_of_impossibility 2014-11-12 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I can also tell you about it if you want; dyslexia and dysgraphia are both in my family, and the latter is a really subtle way for someone who is otherwise highly intelligent to have some serious hits to grades taken if no one bothers to realize what's going on.
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[personal profile] onceaviking 2014-11-11 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Eric was raised to follow in his father's footsteps and while he was not keen on it, it would likely entail that he knew most of what you were supposed to know as Viking royalty. Including being able to read runic inscriptions and perhaps a little Latin (for trade and diplomatic reasons).

In pure head canon, he learned to read properly after he was turned, because his Maker spent time in a Roman household and enjoyed being read to. So he's read the classics.

He also attend Community College in the seventies (book canon) and actually paid attention in class.
He isn't ll about the baser things in life. Sometimes, it just pays to have people think that way about him.
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[personal profile] i_am_your_host 2014-11-11 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Which book is about Eric in community college? Because I think I need to read this.
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[personal profile] onceaviking 2014-11-12 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
It's only referenced once I think.

“They found the corpse in the closet of Alcide's apartment, and they hatched a plan to hide his remains." Eric sounded like that had been kind of cute of us.

"My Sookie hid a corpse?"

"I don't think you can be too sure about that possessive pronoun."

"Where did you learn that term, Northman?"

"I took 'English as a Second Language' at a community college in the seventies.”
― Charlaine Harris, Club Dead

Which leaves all the more room for me and my head canon.
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[personal profile] i_am_your_host 2014-11-12 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
That definitely opens up a lot for headcanon.

I'm just kind of sad that the show didn't give us a visual of Eric in a leisure suit and Pam in bell-bottom jeans.
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[personal profile] onceaviking 2014-11-12 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It would have been a grand decade.
With really hideous clothing.

Eric in one of those shaggy afghan coat things?
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[personal profile] i_am_your_host 2014-11-12 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. And expansive butterfly collars and gold chains.

Hideous clothing, but damn, he and Pam would still look fucking fabulous together.
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[personal profile] protect_and_survey 2014-11-11 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Jemma: Has more PhDs than one person should at her age, ever, it's ridiculous. She has also taken enough unrelated classes to minor in... more than a few things, but mostly she uses it to keep up with Fitz when she's helping him.

Katya: Did have a tutor when she was a young child, and had the classes given to every Light Other, but other than that... nothing, other than the school of hard knocks. She wouldn't much see a point to it, really, if someone brought it up.

Oswin: Went through the typical schooling for her time, but wasn't super interested in it - no-one was teaching hacking, after all.

Clara: Went through all the typical schooling, did decently well, loves classics and philosophy, and evidently after dealing with the universe's most exuberant man-child she decided to become a teacher. IDK.

aaaand it's time for work, so I'll get the rest later.
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[personal profile] aberration 2014-11-12 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
Asami went to a private school mostly populated by the children of wealthy Republic City residents. Since completing her time there, she's been apprenticing with her father at Future Industries. She's also received private training in hand-to-hand combat since she was six, and has been taught/been given the space to teach herself about mechanical engineering for her entire life. She liked being in school – she was a good student and fairly popular, and did especially well in her science and math classes – but she doesn't really miss it very much.


Will went to various public schools, due to frequently moving when his father found work. My headcanon is that after high school he went to a state school in Louisiana, partially paying his tuition by working as a mechanic, and then worked as a cop and homicide detective in New Orleans, which is canon. It's also novel canon that he studied forensic science at GWU, so my timeline is that he did a master's program there after working in New Orleans. He also completed the training program at the FBI Academy, though he never actually became an FBI agent.

When he was a kid, school wasn't a very good experience, as he was already not great at building relationships, and then moving constantly meant he was pretty much always a stranger wherever he was. He didn't like participating in class, and especially when he was younger could have difficulty paying attention, getting through his homework, or working with others. He could also unwillingly start to outright mimic others when he spoke to them, which a lot of the time other kids and his teachers would interpret as him goofing off or making fun of them, when he really just couldn't help it. His father was also not at all interested in being involved in his education, which just bothered his teachers all the more. By the time he got to high school, he pretty much managed to get those things under control, and especially in college he read a lot, as he hadn't had the focus for it when he was in school before. But he still mostly kept to himself, and he doesn't really miss it. He doesn't really like teaching that much, either, but it keeps him out of the field, and it's actually much easier for him to communicate with a group at large than it is on an individual basis.


Katara would have mostly been taught by her parents and the elders in her village. She learned to read and write growing up, as well as to some degree about her world's history and certain spiritual aspects, such as the Avatar cycle. She also learned a lot of fundamental skills to help her survive and support her community in the South Pole, including cooking, cleaning, hunting, sewing, and medical treatment. And she was eventually trained in healing and combat by a waterbending master. But as she never really had a formal "schooling" experience, it's not exactly an aspect of her life she misses per se. She does, however, really love being a teacher. She considers teaching the Avatar waterbending one of the most important and valuable experiences of her life (and she did it twice), and I like to imagine that after the War she did a lot of work to teach new Healers so they would be widely accessible around the world.


Marceline grew up during the apocalypse and so never went to school. I like to think she learned a lot from Simon Petrikov, but other than that she's mostly self-taught, and she's had a lot of time for that.
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[personal profile] student_of_impossibility 2014-11-12 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
A day late:

Henry's in middle school by now.

Eriond was technically more or less educated by Polgara and Belgarath (so let's all stand in amazement that he can read at all, Pol), but he also kind of has this annoying omniscience thing when he cares to turn it on.

Lois mostly ignored school but had good enough grades to get into Metropolis U, which is a reasonably good place. Then she got kicked out for reasons. She's never gone back and doesn't want to.

Tavi did a full two terms, nearly five years at the Academy in Alera Imperia, which is probably Aleran equivalent of a Master's or some such. Certainly he's more educated than most Alerans and, in a different sort of life, would have loved being an archaeologist (or engineer, or mathematician maybe, or... yeah, point being). As it is, he's not the best in any one field, but easily among the best in most of them. He does not want to revisit school years--the early ones especially sucked--but he loves learning. (Educational system of Alera is due for a revamp anyway...)