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[bjornwilde]

Today's topic comes from aberration :

Have you ever had headcanon that ended up actually being canon (as opposed to being jossed*)? And/or also talk about being jossed!

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*Jossed: when a headcanon you have is contradicted by canon.

Comments

[lazy_but_loyal]

Pam and Eric sleeping in the same bed. Hey, this is a big deal, okay, they're in the same bed. After 7 seasons of never seeing Pam and Eric anywhere near each other like that except for when they met 100 years ago, we threaded out a scene in which they shared a bed. And then not too long after, it happened in the show. (Our version was more adorable, but still.)

Also, Eric and his human emotions.

[onceaviking]

Yes, yes, yes.
So much yes.

Also, there have been instances of actual wording that then appeared on the show.

[lazy_but_loyal]

I think the final season pretty much delivered on everything that we expected Team Pam & Eric to be even as we were playing them.

[onceaviking]

Seeing as how we realized who was the brain here pretty early on.

[bjornwilde]

Jess: Her serious need for a new costume. Fortunately, Kris Anka not only took on the challenge, but knocked it out of the ballpark. Would Clint & Jess's dating count as being jossed since I never liked them as a couple?

Quinlan Vos: Nothing I can think of since his canon is over. While I am a little nervous about some new canon which will feature him, I am playing him past this point.

Ethan: The only thing I can think of is stuff the show has been hinting at ever since the opening credits but didn't confirm until the last scene of the finale. There are some bits of his past which the trailer for the new season are hinting at, assuming the writers are being respectful of Native American culture. Warnings for horrific use of blood in the link.

Andrea: Well, I also thought she needed to get away from the Order.

Unrelated, I guessed Yang Xiao Long's semblance correctly back at the end of the first volume of season one of RWBY and can I claim Trip's fate as being jossed?

[bjornwilde]

Adding some to Jess as Maru's answer sparked some thoughts.

One of the challenges of playing a comic book character (and long running TV shows I am sure) is how often different writers have different takes on the character. Jess suffers from this a lot. Stemming from Bendis' grim and traumatized outcast, for a long time Jess was written as neurotic and broody; which did fit for the time period after her identity was taken over by an alien to facilitate an invasion.

Then, along came Kelly Sue Deconnick, who wrote Jess as flawed and hurt but still hopeful. This is my Jess and while I am happy Jess has her own book again, I am concerned as Hopeless seems to be writing her as Ms. Neurotic McBroodypants again. Previews for issues after the current storyline suggest this is just her being grumpy at her current mission, so I am hopeful.

TL;DR - Jess, to me, is deeply flawed and hurt but she maintains a hope that things will be better. She uses humor and snark to hide her pain rather than being grumpy and hypercritical of those around her.

[yakalskovich]

My Katrina Crane is competent, sensible, quite powerful and knowledgable. She seemed like that in season one.

In season two, she has been a total f(l)ailcopter which the writers didn't serve right, and the viewers hated. I was getting doubts about her -- are they going to turn on her and make her a traitor all along? Her user name 'Schrödinger's Wife' seemed more apt than ever.

Only with the very latest episode did we get the competent and intelligent Katrina back that had been hinted at in the first season; if they carry on like that, I will no longer be alone in clinging to my interpretation of my charrie in the hope that the writers and showrunners will stop doing awful things to her and make her seem a total damsel.

[sdelmonte]

Can't say this entirely counts. I decided that Howard Stark had a butler named Jarvis, and that is where Tony got the name JARVIS from. But it sort of seemed like an obvious thing since Edwin Jarvis was in the comics in the first place. Still, they didn't have to take that route, but they did.

[death_gone_mad]

I think I'd have to dig through my old EP's to know for sure, but I think I was writing Amascut as a cat person who did not really mind water and boats and the sea that much before canon decided the pirate and international crimelord Keli Raven was another one of Amascut's disguises.

I am not too sure why I was playing her that way, but she does love fishes and squid, and her mother is a river goddess. The major cities of the Kharid have almost always been seaports too, I suppose.

Heck, in the reveal that Amascut spent at least some time as a pirate, the game's developers put a ruined temple to her right on a beach. :P

Heh, maybe the Gielinorian version of the lion is more closely related to Earth's tiger than to actual lions

[abitofawildman]

I headcanon'd AirBenders in Squirrel Suits a few years before that happened in canon.
I'd say I did a pretty decent job of getting Bumi right, considering I started playing him many months prior to his actual canon appearance.

Where I was Joss'd was that he wasn't the middle child, but the oldest of Aang and Katara's kids. Also that he's like...apparently a decade older than Tenzin, which kind of puts the kybosh on my favorite ridiculous ship: Lin/Bumi

[ceitfianna]

The way that Charles first reacted to his telepathy, not the same age but the feeling of being overwhelmed and thinking he was crazy. I mean its not that strange an idea for him but in the scene in Days of Future Past where past and future Charles talk about compassion and past Charles talks to Logan about his voices and his filters and all, so much of that clicked with what I've written as fic and in how I play him.

For the others, its not as much of an issue. If they're in an ongoing canon like Quentin, I started playing him after the most recent book came out and I've started him farther back.

Even with Sameth and Clariel, he didn't get jossed as the vague way that Nix writes about how Charter magic works fits with what I've been writing.

[no_vampires_plz]

I saw Twilight's impending princessdom coming as far back as the first season, does that count?

[aberration]

Asami - I correctly guessed her age back in season 1. And… eventually felt like my characterization for her appeared in the show. I'm almost kind of annoyed I didn't come up with her having played Pai Sho with her father before it turned up in canon.

But I don't think any headcanon confirmation I may ever have will top (SPOILERS): she's bisexual and totally falls in love with Korra. Do you know how often my headcanon bisexuals actually turn out to be canon bisexual? Not very often!

Will - I have a lot of headcanon for him that I know will never happen, but they're therefore not the kind of thing I'm worried about being jossed over.

It's not exactly this, but I did have one instance where – I won a copy of a Hannibal shooting script (for "Mukozuke"), and it was around the time when I was writing the OOM I'd wanted to do for that episode. So when I got it I was kind of excited to look at what didn't end up in the finished episode, to see if any of it would work well in the OOM. But I didn't end up making any of those changes, because the opposite sort of ended up happening – I'd already written a few things that were very similar to some of the lines that hadn't made it into the show. So, that was kind of nice.

I guess I could be considered jossed on some things with Elle, but I'm not sure Heroes is a really coherent enough canon for… anything to be considered… well, much of anything. As for Katara, by the time I was thinking of headcanon for her she had a closed canon… and then an open canon again! But I've never had anything particularly contradicted or confirmed.