ways_back_room | DE: I'll be there

Ragnar. Ragnar, Ragnar and Ragnar.

Someone thinks they used to be able to say that. Someone will be very surprised to find they still can.

And he doesn't even know the half of it - I don't think he ever finds out Ragnar paid off the lawspeaker?

I don't remember it ever coming up. I kind of like him not knowing.

Ragnar is NOT going to tell him as he needs to give Rollo a few years to come back and be worthy of trust again.

This. I'd say poor Rollo but he earned his fall.

He earned his fall, and now needs to be taught the hard way.

Sam Wilson: Steve Rogers...duh. ~~Maybe Natasha to a lesser extent but this is more because they haven't worked as much together rather than trusting her skill or desire to protect him.~~ No, definitely Natasha as well. I mean he worked with her just as much as with Steve.

Hank McCoy: Hmmm...I don't know that he does at this point. He'd like to think Charles or Raven but a)they haven't been in that situation yet and b)he's sees himself as the one who should protect (thank you 50s society expectations).

Ahsoka: Anakin and Obi-Wan, even if they aren't in her life so much any more.

Asajj: Herself.

Quinlan: Several people actually, his wife Khaleen, his old master Tholme, and oddly enough, Ibani.

Selina: Jay and maybe Detective Gordon.

Tybalt: His body guards to a certain extent. Toby most definitely, though he isn't comfortable putting her in a situation where it is required.

Luidaeg: She knows Toby and Quentin would try and protect her but this scares her as anything that could harm her would make short work of those two.

Izana: At this point, no one in particular, maybe the Honoka sisters, later they'll trust Tanikaze Nagate. In the grander scheme of things, they trust Garde pilots and their fellow cadets, but that's more an assumed "we're in this together" kind of trust.

And lastly, Rollo. He used to think his brother would protect him but he is quite convinced he has ruined that. Same with his shield brothers.

Edited 2015-05-12 16:42 (UTC)

Ooooooh, very good question - with some complex answers for mine! Let me see:

Bucky Barnes - It's complicated. First and foremost and obviously, he trusts Steve 100%, and trusts that Steve would do anything and everything he could to keep him (Bucky) safe from harm ... but I'm not sure he trusts that such a thing is possible. (Which, ow.) As for Natasha -- he trusts her to be who she is, with all of the entangled complexity that entails with their entire history. He's coming to a trust-like place with X-23, due to shared understanding. Similarly, he's beginning to develop camaraderie with Jason Todd.

But right now, in the end, if Bucky needed to have someone watching his back who he knew absolutely and without a doubt would not turn on him for any reason - Steve Rogers, and no one else.

Moiraine - She trusted Lan Mandragoran in that role (Warder) for over 20 years. She would still, but Nynaeve takes precedence. She trusts Dale Cooper to protect her, but understands that this level of trust is difficult for him to accept, so she doesn't mention it unless absolutely necessary. She also trusts Ace, and mostly Raven - with the caveat that she also understands that Raven is by nature dangerous and protection might not always align with his teaching a needed lesson. Similarly, she trusts Merriman Lyon and Will Stanton - but with the understanding that the needs of the Light take precedence over mortal protection.

Sam Winchester - Dean. No matter what happens, it comes down to Dean.

Louis Hoshi - Hoshi trusts a lot of people, including those he serves with on Galactica. Sometimes this backfires, but he hasn't and won't stop trusting. (Yes, he trusts Gaeta. Despite the mutiny.)

Laura Roslin - Roslin's more suspicious than Hoshi, but she trusts in the system and in Adama and in a lot of those who loyally serve.

Kim Ford - Dave Martynuik, mostly. Kim doesn't distrust easily, but Dave and she share an understanding that no one else in their world has.

Nick Sayre - Nick is more likely to traipse off into trouble without even thinking about the need for protection until it's too late.

Gabriel Tam - his security team; Galadan; Regan; River; Crowley when he was alive; and Mal Reynolds, to a surprisingly extensive degree.

ETA: So yeah, there's a name lacking here, and that's Simon. It's complicated! Gabriel trusts his son, but he also knows that he failed his son and Simon had to protect River when she couldn't protect herself, despite Gabriel's failure to aid him. So although Gabriel absolutely believes in and trusts Simon (especially as a better person than he believes himself to be), I'm not sure Gabriel would trust in Simon to protect him against danger, EXCEPT for medical danger. And that's largely because he doesn't feel he has the right to. If that makes sense.

Captain Jack Sparrow - No. No one at all. He trusts his understanding of people and what will motivate them to do various things, and as part of that he can trust when people will help defend him because it serves their interests too - but there's no one he trusts to have his back just because. Not even Gibbs (pirate).

Right now I think the only potential exception to this is Alanna, but I think it would take an absolute test to prove that.

Edited 2015-05-12 16:35 (UTC)

Sorry, I just had a vision of Captain Jack and Floki communicating only in flouncy hand gestures and then trading eye makeup tips.

I didn't know I needed to read this until now.

I need to read that as well!!!

Steve is doing a lot of manly blinking and throat-clearing.

I think for all of mine, the answer is yes! You'd think I had a thing for characters with close loyal relationships, or something.

Enjolras trusts all the other Amis utterly. (Grantaire... is an It's Complicated in many, many ways, but Enjolras has always trusted his loyalty to friends, and now more than ever. Just not necessarily his willingness to do anything actively useful about it -- which, these days he's a little more willing to give benefit of the doubt there.) Protect is a funny word to use, but still, if it were needed for some reason, he'd trust all of them to do their utmost, just as he'd do for them.

Doubtless some other folks back in Paris, too. Valjean... somewhat, situationally. Gavroche -- he trusts that Gavroche would try if it were needed, but he still kind of thinks of Gavroche as a kid, so he wouldn't be a first thought.

Thor: Sif and the Warriors Three, as reciprocal comrades-in-arms, obviously. Erik Selvig already has. In Milliways there are several folks in similar categories: X, Ellen Park, Diana, probably Bahorel, anybody else I'm forgetting whom he'd consider both a friend and skillful at battle and/or diplomacy and/or other skills relevant to protection. Loki was at the top of this list with Sif and the Warriors Three until recently, but... well. Yeah.

Sort of his parents, but that one's complicated because they're also his liege lord and lady. His job is to protect them, not theirs to do a disservice to Asgard by protecting one of its strongest warriors. (That said, he has totally counted on them protecting him from the consequences of dumb stuff in the past. Just without noticing that that was what he was doing.)

Also, you know, he'd trust that just about any citizen of Asgard would protect their prince at need, as he would do for them, but that's slightly different.

Cosette: Her father. Her father, always and utterly. Also Marius, but that's less bone-deep at this point -- and maybe always, because a relationship with a spouse is different than a relationship with the father who rescued you from a horrible abusive childhood and self-sacrificingly puts your happiness above everything (or at least tries to.)

River: Simon. The crew of Serenity. Crowley, Aziraphael, Galadan, Roland, the rest of his ka-tet, Duo -- the list could go on, because there are actually a LOT of Milliways folk she trusts to try to protect her. Sort of mostly her parents, but they comprehensively failed her once and everybody involved is very aware of that; she trusts that they want desperately to never fail their children again, but whether she'd trust their judgment and skills to be equal to the task depends a lot on the situation. (She will never ever tell them that.)

Regan: Aheh. Well, she trusts Gabriel to try, but she also hopes that somebody will sit on him if she's not there to do it, and let the bodyguards take care of it. Galadan and Crowley, sort of, but it's an awkward situation where she knows they care about her husband and children rather more than her, and her mostly for their sake. Aziraphael/Prior Fell she trusts a little more directly, I think.

Trowa: The other Gundam pilots. His sister Catherine, in certain situations; in others, there's no lack of trust, but she doesn't have the skillset. The ringmaster, ditto. X and Cass, if need be. That's probably honestly about it.

Kazul: Cimorene, Mendanbar, Morwen, probably some dragon friends.

Edit: I forgot Clare! Clare trusts Teresa to protect her, absolutely, although she would leap to Teresa's defense just as fast. Beyond that... um. Ambriel, maybe, although it hasn't occurred to her. She trusts Raki to try, but in a KIDDO YOU'RE A HAMSTER FACING DOWN WOLVES, STOP TRYING TO HELP way. A couple of guards in Rabona, ditto. Later in canon she'll trust certain other Claymore warriors, but not right now.

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The pup bristles at the idea of needing protecting. She's the protector, thank you very much.

That said, probably Jedwar Kantos Kan.... And the entire Helium Navy.

There were definitely a couple of mine for whom I had to invoke the "okay but if you had an incapacitating injury and/or had to hide from people hunting you, all right" mental clause.

It's funny how many of mine would only accept "watching my back in a fight" in order to answer this DE.

Asami - At one point it would have been her father, but then, eheh, that went right out. When it comes to trusting others to protect her from immediate physical danger, there are actually a lot of people she'd trust – Mako, Bolin, Bumi, Lin, Tenzin, they're all people she believes honestly mean well and would use their power to prevent harm from coming to her. But when it comes to the kind of trust for someone to immediately have your back, to defend you in situations that aren't necessarily immediately about physical danger, but where you might need defending or reassurance in any case, I think her feelings on that shifted over to Korra sooner than one might have thought. Korra is amazingly powerful and kickass and could certainly ensure her safety as much as anyone could, but I think even with what happened with Mako, she saw Korra as a very genuine person, and someone very passionate about protecting others and doing what she thought was right (regardless of whether her judgment was always the… best, but I don't think Asami saw it that way), and she was really drawn to that. And it helps her think of Korra as not only someone who would help make sure she didn't get hurt physically, but would also stand up for her, and wouldn't intentionally do anything she thought would hurt her. So… multiple people! But Korra is definitely at the top of that list.

Katara - Definitely Aang and Sokka. She also feels pretty safe around Toph, but she'd be a little more concerned that Toph would get more invested in the fight than making sure everyone is okay. And Katara also has a little more reason to answer this with, "Excuse me, I can protect all of these people myself."

Will .................... sigh. Okay. I can say that at least, even after everything that happened, I think he does believe that people like Alana and Beverly and Diana would want to protect him, and would have wanted to, if they'd seen the truth of what was happening to him. But Diana was the only one capable of doing that, and even though he doesn’t really blame them for it, it's... not the easiest thing to just… move on from. Unfortunately, Will has also begun to move away from wanting that kind of protection. And Hannibal... is probably sad that he's not on this list :P

Elle - X.

Leslie - From danger? Ron; From jerks? Ben; From herself? Ann.

X: She trusts Elle to take care of things that X cannot take care of herself (like killing Kimura ahahahah), including watching her back in combat, but also -- things not involving fighting. Like when she was small. She is glad Elle found her that time. Or if she were a car. She also trusts Meg and Parker not to steer her wrong when it comes to people, and Thor to be her probably-functionally-killing-someone-not-her training buddy. If she lost her healing factor she would probably not trust Thor in this capacity anymore, because that would be stupid for everyone. Dinah, Cass, Bruce W -- there's a lot of people she'd trust at her back in a fight, because everyone would have their space and could take care of it adequately.

Ysalwen: She'd trust Zevran, Leliana, and Morrigan to effectively protect her. She'd trust Alistair, Wynne, Shale, and Sten to try, for varying definitions of the word try, and depending on the circumstances some of them would succeed, but -- Alistair protecting her politically, nsm, and Wynne protecting her from Templars/the Circle nsm. For instance. Shale would definitely not defend her from pigeons, also. I'm just saying. In-bar -- I don't know yet. No? Liranan is it, thus far. Give it time.

Dean Winchester: He trusts Sam to protect him but is very insistent that if Dean is doing his job right Sam should not need to. Dammit.

Nynaeve: Lan, hands down. He is her husband and her Warder, you bet your ass she trusts him for that. Her job is also to protect him, however, so there are occasionally limits. (Plus he's got old promises, so.) Um. Glorfindel, probably, if he insisted.

Wonder Woman: Ellen would try her best, Diana is sure, if it came down to it. Thor, too. She's been taken down in combat a few times, and for people to stand over her unconscious body and try to keep her from being definitively killed -- yeah.

Galadan: River, because she would be very insistent about it, and dealing with her irritation afterward if he tried to prevent her would be incredibly vexing.

Raven: Coyote. Moiraine. Ace. Coyote.

Michael the Archangel: No. She'd like to trust Lucifer for that, these days, but. No.

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Merlin trusts the Knights of the Round Table. He has trusted Arthur almost from the beginning.

Groot trusts Rocket, and the other Guardians.

Cecil trusts Carlos. he's done it before, after all.

Sadie trusts Frank. Of course, it would be a very dire situation indeed where she couldn't rescue herself.

Jack trusts his bodyguards and the men he commands, but he's aware of how easily that could change.

Steve has the longest list of all of them: Orpheus, Bucky, Sam, the other Avengers, the Commandos when they were still alive, the people he counts as friends. The Insight battle showed that he could count on people he's never even met.

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Death- Well, no. He doesn't really need it.

Tass- his friends, well with the exception of Rastalin, I think.

Naruto- at the moment, Pervy Sage, but when he gets back, his friends.

Vala- She used to have no one, but now she has SG1!

Daniel- SG1, Jack, and Sam, and Teal'k... and Cam and Vala, and General Landry, and well yeah.

Tegid- He used to have Llew and the warband, but Llew died. So, it he trusts the Ravins, and Scatha, but no one is as close as Llew was to him. In Milliways, it used to be Bill Pardy, and still would be, if they ran into each other again.

Eriond: Well, the travelling party of the Belgariad/Mallorean, or his brothers or father, and of course Horse. But needing protection is... not really his thing.

Lois trusts Oliver to save her life in Deadly Danger type situations. She trusts Martha Kent and Chloe with Real Life type of having her back. But really, whether or not she admits it, the person she trusts to protect her no matter what? Take a wild guess.

Tavi actually has an extensive list, beginning with Kitai and then Max, then Araris, Ehren, Magnus, Bernard, Amara, his entire First Aleran Legion, Varg--honestly, the list is fairly wide-reaching and now includes the High Lords and the Legions... And as long as he's fighting Vord, despite his well-trained paranoia, he can count on most people to have his back in a fight. Interestingly, there are some qualifiers with some people: Isana and Araris he definitively trusts with his life but many things he does not trust them with, because of the decisions they made protecting him as a child. And despite being guilty of high treason and not being trusted out of only-slightly-metaphorical sight, Tavi actually trusts Fidelias more than most people.

But currently he does generally trust people not to want him dead. If Attis were still alive, this would be less true, but not having rivals to the Crown is useful. (As is winning a war.)

Chuck: Not really. When he was alive, he trusted other competent pilots and his dad, but in Milliways the closest he has is Pentecost. And Pentecost is very, very busy, and Chuck is dead and thus mostly useless to the ongoing safety of Earth.
Legolas: Any fellow Elves.
Clint: Natasha, even if she has a way more important mission priority. Fury, if his safety doesn't endanger any goals (and he fully trusts Fury to decide what goals are more important than his life/wellbeing).
Darcy: Not really. Thor'll be distracted killing the big bad, and Jane wouldn't even notice she needed protecting.
Melinda May: No. Melinda doesn't really do trust. At all.
Quatre: He trusts some people to protect other people FROM him, and he trusts that as long as their missions align the other Gundam pilots will protect him, and he trusts most of his family and upper level employees to be terrifyingly loyal against exterior threats in any form. The only person he really trusts to protect him, though, is Rashid (head of the Maganacs).

We have a Legolas?

Oh noo, now the song's stuck in my head, which means this comic's stuck in my mental visuals.

But yeah, of course, both Joly and Bahorel have eight people in Milliways they absolutely trust to help in any way a Standard Squishy Human can. They're starting to connect to other people, but those are other people with their own lives and causes and responsibilities that would be assumed to have rightful priority.

(Outside of Milliways, back home, they both had rather larger circles. But that's past-tense, so.)

Gah, that comic! Awful, awful.

It is a Classic of the Genre. /solemn

Emcee probably has more people willing to protect him than he realizes, as for the most part he thinks he's on his own, or doesn't really want anyone else to bother or go out of their way to risk anything just for him. In Milliways, Jay and Noriko had offered to retaliate on his behalf whenever he ran into trouble, and Eric...is a special case. I mean, it's nice having a vampire on your side, but he doesn't want to depend on Eric for anything.

Emcee is smart like that.

Especially since Eric only helps out when he has nothing better to do.
Obviously.

Emcee's more like...so heyyyy, wanna kill someone? And Eric's like...mmm yeah, okay.

The soldier next to her. The SF soldier next to her, if she's being honest. The Outworld Group guy next to her if she's being entirely truthful.

In a pinch, her dad.

Maybe her mom sometimes shut up, okay

Edited 2015-05-13 08:19 (UTC)

Jay - at home, no. Not at all. Maybe Drake, maybe one day. But not yet. He's willing to work with Squire at the moment but he watches his own back as well as his own.

In Milliways - quite a few people, much to his own surprise.
In a fight - Sherral, Rae, Eric if he was sure they were on the same page, X and Bucky probably.

There was a time that Jay's training ran so deep, he couldn't have fallen asleep around anyone but family and even then... Now there's a lot of people, in Milliways anyway who would gladly trust to watch his back while he slept or if things got bad. Charles, Jemma, Autor, Moist, Emcee, Little Cat too.

David - his team and even then, he looks to protect them more than the other way around. And Madam Caro, a confidant from the war.

Minx - again, David and the team. But in Milliways - Will and Vic, and perhaps Rae as a friend.

Olivier - At home - his lord, his fellow squire Philip and his bride to be, Ermine. In Milliways - Sonya and Athelstan. And Father Harman when it comes to the spiritual.

Diaval - back home he trust his Mistress... mostly. She'll protect him while he's still of use. He has lots of friends in Milliways and trust all of them, mostly because he's gullible.

Clementine: Sam, absolutely. She falls asleep on him for a reason! Also probably Elrond.

Dixie: Brisco, this is canon, though she's a self-rescuer.

Juliet: Carlton, Shawn, Karen and probably Henry to a degree.

Eponine: Her brother, Marius.

Pinkie: The Cakes, the rest of the mane six, Celestia, Luna, Cheese Sandwich

Edited 2015-05-19 12:06 (UTC)

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