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needsmoreresearch ([personal profile] needsmoreresearch) wrote in [community profile] ways_back_room2016-04-07 07:22 am
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Let's talk family! Does your character have siblings? How do they get along? Is this a canon relationship (....uh, hi, Thor, sorry) or background that you've supplied?
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[personal profile] sunbaked_baker 2016-04-07 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Sunshine has two half-brothers. Kenny is eighteen, ten years younger than Rae, and is soon to start college, while Billy is twelve. They get along decently; there is love there but they are not as close as they were when they were younger. Some of that distance is because of some of the things Rae did when she was a teenager that alienated her young half-brothers from her, but there's also a distance simply brought on by age differences and the fact that Rae hasn't lived at home for the last ten years. Apart from their exact ages (which I nevertheless extrapolated from canon references to the boys), all of that is canon.

Yrael is one of nine semi-sorta-maybe-possibly sibling-type-things. Even Yrael doesn't remember whether the whole 'sibling' thing is literal or figurative, and he doesn't feel it really matters any more. The nine of them don't have the best history, and really don't keep in touch, for various reasons; factors like "not really existing any more except sometimes," or "not having a separate consciousness from the benevolent magic system that supports the world," or "gone walkabout" or "being broken and imprisoned for eternity" makes conversation a bit difficult.

It's complicated.
Edited 2016-04-07 14:44 (UTC)
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[personal profile] camwyn 2016-04-07 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Gordon has a brother, who is completely non-canon. In the original Half-Life, if you look in the locker marked FREEMAN, there is a picture of a baby or infant. If you play the PS2 version of Half-Life the tutorial intro features someone who may be Isaac Kleiner (or who may be Hugo Farnsworth for all I can tell) reading your personnel record; he says you have no spouse and no dependents. I assumed this meant the baby was related to Gordon and created an older brother for him; they were very different people, and Gordon punched several of his teeth out when they were ages eight and six because Jay wouldn't stop trying to pester him into athletic competition.

Shephard has an older brother, an older sister, and a younger brother and sister. The younger brother, due to Shephard's time on ice after the G-man grabbed him, is currently older than Adrian. The older sister is still alive and teaching in Rowlesburg. The other siblings are either dead or missing. None of this is canon because Shephard has no background beyond 'Marine who wants to get into combat' in canon.

Ellen has no siblings that she knows of. Given her father's habit of Not Telling Her Things she suspects she may have half-siblings on the surface somewhere. There are no canon siblings and the suspicion is purely Millicanon.

Stacker Pentecost has a sister, who died trying to kill the Trespasser during its attack on California. This is canon; see Pacific Rim: Tales From Year Zero.

... I have a meeting now. More later, perhaps.
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[personal profile] yinyangwizard 2016-04-07 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
In legend, there's no mention of Seimei having any siblings (at least not as far as I can tell). In my headcanon he has some half-siblings on both sides of his family. The half-siblings on his mother's side, by various fathers, were/are all kitsune. His half-siblings on his father's side came from his father's primary wife.

Seimei had a cordial but not close relationship with his human half-siblings (although it was much better than it could have been, under the circumstances). Some of his kitsune half-siblings are still alive and he has friendly, if not close, relationships with most of them.
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[personal profile] genarti 2016-04-07 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha!

Thor: I mean. AS YOU SAY. Thor would have said that he and his brother Loki squabbled a lot but otherwise got on great -- okay, sure, their dad had set them up to compete for Asgard's throne, but brotherly love and no hard feelings, right? -- and then Loki lied to him on extremely painful subjects and tried to kill him and tried to kill their father and was revealed to be secretly adopted and plunged into an abyss of daddy issues and (though Thor doesn't know this) will eventually reemerge as a supervillain, so, uh. Thor is facing the fact that maybe there were some hard feelings! How they get along is therefore a big solid It's Complicated And Occasionally Bloody.

Enjolras: Is canonically an only child. (Well, literally an 'only son,' which is the standard term but does technically leave room for reading against authorial intent and giving him sister(s), but after pondering it some I decided against doing that.) He possibly has some first cousins -- or had first cousins that didn't live past infancy, at least -- just by demographics, or if not he's unusual in being from a very small family, but I assume they live far enough away that he's not super close to them.

Cosette: Is also canonically an only child! Eponine and Azelma could potentially have been quasi-sisters to her if the Thénardiers had been halfway decent people, buuuut they weren't, so that was abusive and messed up and then she got rescued and forgot large swathes of her childhood, so. Only child.

Kazul: Quite possibly has some siblings, but she never mentions them. I'm going to say she does, and they have the polite kind of relationship of adult siblings living at a geographical distance where they get along well, but only visit occasionally and don't keep in touch all that frequently.
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[personal profile] never_promised 2016-04-07 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
"maybe there were some hard feelings"

oh, thor

honey
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[personal profile] genarti 2016-04-07 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
MAYBE ONE OR TWO.
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[personal profile] never_promised 2016-04-07 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Once again, Hal has Awkward Sibling Relationship high-fives for Thor.
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[personal profile] genarti 2016-04-07 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Everybody's favorite! Awkward Sibling Relationship high-fives and a Liege Lord Daddy Issues fistbump.
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[personal profile] bjornwilde 2016-04-07 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahsoka: No canon family that's been revealed. I do read a fancomic called Star Wars Destinies which has recently introduced a brother for Ahsoka, as well as a baby sister. I like the idea but I don't like the portrayal of Anakin they've just shown. At this point in time, I don't see Anakin going Sith for what is really a minor matter. I might head canon the older brother who goes looking for Ahsoka but haven't decided yet.

Sabine: Nothing official in the series. They've revealed her clan is part of House Vizla but that's it. Either Filoni or Adagio has suggested that Sabine's mother is the one who is the tie to clan Wren, and thus Vizla. No mention of a father or other siblings.

Eliot: I find it hard to believe he doesn't have siblings but again nothing has been revealed. If he does, they no longer exist, having been erased from his life along with the rest of his past.

Rollo: He has this annoying younger brother who always gets what he wants while Rollo has to work hard an gets no credit. ; p

Selina: A mother who is missing. No mention of a father nor siblings. I'm secretly hoping her father will turn out to be a big name in Gotham's crime families like how the comics have recently played with.

Izana: They have a grandmother who is the only family mentioned or shown. I'm mostly convinced Izana is actually the clone of her grandmother, with some genetic tinkering, given how much the two resemble each other and that Izana's grand mother is the one who set up the cloning and genetic alterations that saved the population of Sidonia from the last gauna attack. They have a pretty close relationship and live together, though the grandmother isn't home as often as Izana might wish.

Sam: He should have a family. Comics has his father being a minister, which I like. I also head canon that his cousin is the one who designed the EXO-7 Falcon suit.

Hank: Only child I am afraid. Canon doesn't mention Hank's family at all and so I am pulling from the comics. I do see a grand father in addition to the mother and father.

Edited 2016-04-07 15:56 (UTC)
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[personal profile] bjornwilde 2016-04-07 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Expanding on Ahsoka's answer, she does have 10,000+ near family in the Jedi. She also will have two older brother-esk peeps in Anakin and Obi-Wan.
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[personal profile] varadia 2016-04-07 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
X actually has cloned siblings in her All-New Wolverine book! They do not have the mutation, something went wrong with that, but they have nanites that are kind of like it, though they make them sick, too. I will report on new developments!

She also has Logan, which was sold in the books as initially a sibling relationship, but more recently different writers have decided it is more father-daughter. In Milliways it is totally sibling, and they get on well. They have a lot of similar experience, and X likes telling Logan how much she has learned and grown and seeing how he is getting on, too. And also they like making fun of each other. 's nice. (They are not gushy about it, but they are good siblings.) Daken is. Well. That's a different story. And her cousin and aunt got on a bus and left the story and have never returned.

Ysalwen has a dead mother, an absent and probably dead father, and no siblings. She does have an Alistair and a Morrigan and a kid she calls her nephew, though, so that's . . . like family! Her family is wholly created by me. The Alistair and Morrigan and baby thing can be canon. The way they all feel about each other is created by me. (In canon unless the Warden is the babydaddy and goes through the eluvian with Morrigan, said warden never meets Kieran.)
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[personal profile] bringspeopletogether 2016-04-07 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Alistair had a half-brother, Cailan, who served as king of Ferelden for five years before getting slaughtered at Ostagar. (Thanks, Loghain!) They didn't know each other well, what with Cailan being the legitimate one and Alistair being the illegitimate kid who got shipped off to Redcliffe. Maric brought Calian to Redcliffe once when Alistair was very young, but they only exchanged about five words before Cailan ran off to check out the armory.

They were pretty similar in personality: not very mature and prone to lots of joking. Cailan had a reputation as being more vainglorious, though. He was also widely regarded as king in name only, with Anora actually running the country; when Alistair talks about his fears he'll just "be another Cailan," that's what he means.

Alistair also believes he has a half-sister, Goldanna, on his mother's side. Their one and only meeting, um...did not go well. To say the least. But it's okay, because she's not actually his half-sister after all! UM. (Not that Alistair knows this or will find out about it any time soon.)
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[personal profile] yinyangwizard 2016-04-07 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The meeting between Alistair and Goldanna is one of the most heartbreaking things in a canon full of heartbreaking things.
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[personal profile] varadia 2016-04-07 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Loghain is the gift that keeps on giving!
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[personal profile] bcgphoenix 2016-04-07 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
ISN'T HE JUST.

;_;
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[personal profile] annalalaith 2016-04-07 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Tegid had a family. I have a feeling that his family got killed during the crap that went down when the phantarc was killed.

The Count has a brother that is still alive and living in America. His older brother was killed...

Wil does not have any siblings.

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[personal profile] onceaviking 2016-04-07 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Eric had a little sister who was killed by werewolves in the service of the vampire Russell Edginton.
In the flashback, he is clearly an adult and she is a very small child, so I sort of hand waved that he might have had other siblings, filling the gap between these two.


Elrond had Elros. And he still misses him.
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[personal profile] just_cant_lose 2016-04-07 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Gene - canonically has a brother, Stuart. Had a brother. He died, due to drugs. Before the nature of his world was revealed, it was obvious that it was a thing that bothered Gene. Later, it becomes even worse because Stuart would have died after Gene did, which leaves him wondering whether his own disappearance might have had something to do with Stu's decline. At least, that's how I've interpreted it in Milliways, but it's not a stretch to imagine Gene's thinking going that way once he was aware of what had actually happened to him. So. Yeah. He doesn't like to think about it.

Javert - as far as is known, is an only child and perfectly content with that. Same with the Bruce's, considering their childhood experiences.

Valjean - ...I seem to write HAHAHAHAHA for a lot of his responses to DE posts. :\ Yes, he had/has a sister (and possibly even a brother, though he doesn't remember anything about him if that dream sequence indicates his actual existence). Valjean's sister is called Jeanne - excellent originality with the names there Hugo/Valjean's parents - and she had seven children, who Valjean supported after her husband died. Somewhat grudgingly, it has to be said. And then the youngest got sick, they were all starving, Valjean stole a loaf of bread out of desperation and the rest, as they say, is history. He did try to find his sister later, and I think he'd have genuinely loved to reunite with his family if it were at all possible, but he was so destroyed by prison that a lot of familial feeling went too. :(

Courfeyrac - Unknown! But I millicanon him as having sisters. He strikes me very much as a man with sisters.

Aubrey - has a half-brother, as of early in the book series. Which is slightly problematic when it comes to inheriting off his father, because it leaves another heir in the picture if he pisses his dad off too much. But he does eventually inherit - I cannot for the life of me recall how he gets on with his much younger brother, but I haven't finished reading the series yet so it'll probably come up again later.

Jim - well! In Conan Doyle canon, he definitely has a brother. perhaps even two. They are all called James (not even kidding), because ACD was utterly crap on continuity, and forgets what names he's used to the point of hilarity - he even calls Watson James at one point. Sherlock hasn't addressed this yet, but the S2 DVD commentary assures viewers that Moftiss are 'on the case'...which I take to mean is going to happen in S4, what with the way S3 ended. So I do headcanon that he has a brother, though it won't be a Thing in-bar until canon deals with it. Another option might be that both James' - the Professor and the Colonel - are one and the same person, which I would be totes happy with because it would mean Jim back next year. Which....I would surprised if that didn't happen anyway, but how they do it - if they do it - remains to be seen. Anyway! In ACD canon, Colonel Moriarty shows up to defend his brother's memory, so they either must have got on pretty well, or the Colonel was completely unaware of the Professor being behind pretty much every crime in England. Either way, good times. :D
Edited 2016-04-07 19:26 (UTC)
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[personal profile] angry_friendship_wolf 2016-04-07 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Yamato's an essay in himself, so I'll write that up and then do the others in a different post.

Yamato has a younger brother, Takeru. Their sibling relationship is the subject of a lot of pain for him, especially in 01, since their parents are divorced, and the expectation of divorcees in late 1990s Japan is that it should be a completely clean split, with no interaction between the two sides of the family. Takeru is raised by their mother, Natsuko Takaishi, and Yamato is raised by their father, Hiroaki Ishida.

Canonically, we know that - in defiance of Japanese cultural norms - Yamato and Takeru are allowed to see each other after the divorce, for a single day a year (and it's implied that Takeru is always the one who comes to visit Yamato and Hiroaki, not the other way around, because Yamato flatly refuses to see his mother). So when 01 rolls around, and they're both abducted into the Digital World (because they're both Chosen), it's - confusing? Difficult?

This eventually contributes (along with a dozen other factors, including finding out what his crest represents) to Yamato's total nervous breakdown late in the series, both because he is incredibly, bitterly jealous of the only other sibling relationship amongst the Chosen - Taichi and Hikari - and because their brief return to the real world gives him a very sharp reminder that once their adventure's done, he'll probably never see his brother again.

02 sees Natsuko and Takeru having moved to Odaiba, meaning that Yamato actually does get to see Takeru a lot more, even if they don't live together, and they both still live in Odaiba come tri, so their sibling relationship is fairly good, I'd say? Takeru very much has Yamato wrapped around his little finger, and Yamato's still fairly overprotective, I'd warrant.

It helps, somewhat, that while Yamato is very direct and gruff, Takeru is pretty mellow and easygoing.
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[personal profile] yinyangwizard 2016-04-07 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Regarding divorce in Japan, I didn't know that a total split (including splitting the children!) was the norm.

I guess that from now on it will be a thing that Seimei emphatically Does Not Like - not the divorce necessarily, but basically forbidding the kids to see the other side of the family ever again.
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[personal profile] never_promised 2016-04-07 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I love making sibling backstories for my characters, darn it. Although most of my current characters are only children, now that I think about it.

Feuilly was canonically orphaned very young. By my backstory, he was a foundling left with a hospital in Lyon, so he went out to a foster mother in the country. He was the oldest of her foster children, but there were some others. It's the 19th century soooo you know, what with foundling infant mortality and all that good stuff, Feuilly kiiiiiind of got used to babies sort of coming and going. He was more or less out of that household by the time he was ten, but probably some of the kids were like brothers and sisters to him at the time.

Lesgle managed to inherit and then lose all his father's property. I didn't feel like giving him the guilt of impoverishing his siblings, so he's an only child.

But Hal has brothers and sisters! He has lots of brothers and sisters! Four brothers and two sisters! That nice solid line of succession was presumably a strong selling point in his dad's favor, when people supported his move on the throne.

Thomas, John, and Humphrey all show up in the Henry plays, and I'm pretty interested in the whole dynamic there. It's (surprise surprise) Complicated. Sometimes they're trying to cover for their fuck-up big brother when he's busy screwing around in taverns instead of helping dad at court. Sometimes they're taking over his place in the king's council and generally being way better at the whole prince thing than he is, and presumably resenting the hell out of him. (At the beginning of Henry IV pt 1, their dad is sitting around talking about how great Hotspur is and how he wishes he had an amazing son like that. While Hal's brother John is right there. GOOD TIMES, GREAT FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS.) Then he's king and has to tell them "oh hey stop looking so panicky guys, chill, I would never kill my brothers to prevent potential rivals!"
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2016-04-07 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Will's the only living sibling in his family, I created a lot of them when I first started playing him, far too many. Now in my mind, he was a younger child of about four or five. The hard life of Nottingham and the medieval world means he's the only surviving. He has a found family in the Merry Men and he considers them his brothers.

Charles has or had Raven, they adopted each other when they were both about nine after she snuck into his house. He loves her and misses her so much, because she balanced him. Raven made sure that he didn't focus only on schoolwork or get lost in what might be. Her perspective that's very here and now and physical was important for him. Now she's off with Erik and living in the mansion without her is painful.

Quentin does have a sibling but we only find out in the two most recent books. Due to being fostered, he hasn't seen them in a long time. Raj, his closest friend is probably the nearest he has to a brother but not all the time as they're odd boys.

William has his younger brother Mark, canon doesn't specify their age difference but I see it as between 18 months and 2 years. Mark is a huge part of William's life because when Mark was two, he was diagnosed with TB and keeping him safe and healthy is a main focus of the family. While Dan was off fighting in the Civil War, the boys took on more responsibility. Being an older brother defines William and he and Mark get along really well.

Moist is an only child according to canon and I've yet to see anything to go against that.

Jane is part of a large family with multiple brothers and sisters. She's closest to her sister Cassandra and her brother Henry. She gets along with all of them to varying degrees and siblings are key to her as shown by how she writes families.

Sameth has an older sister Ellimere, they were closer when they were younger and I think at times when they were at school. They shared a bond about their parents not really being present but as they got older and their future roles were set grew apart. After canon, they're trying to figure out how to be friends again and understand where they are.

Ivan is an only child but he grew up with a lot of kids of similar ages who are basically siblings in all but blood. Miles who's very close in age and their relationship is trusting and playful, they act like brothers. Then Gregor who's five years older, before she left, there was Elena.

Demeter's family is a mess in terms of siblings because many of her siblings have had kids together. Persephone is the child of Demeter and Zeus. Her direct siblings are Hera, Zeus, Poseidon, Hestia and Hades with variations depending on the version of the family tree. She doesn't get along well with most of her direct siblings instead she tends to do better with other gods. There's just too much history, but her least favorites are Zeus and Poseidon.

Tumnus is an only child and that contributed to how lonely and scared he was during the Long Winter.
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[personal profile] inlovewithwords 2016-04-07 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Eriond has brothers! Boy does he have brothers. One of them is dead. To all the others he is the baby and very loved, and he loves them. But he's also kind of distant from them because they've all moved on and he's taking over their jobs. One could actually argue that he's also got adopted siblings of "every child ever raised by Polgara, but in particular, Garion." Garion he's reasonably close to.

Henry is an only child.

Evelyn has at the least a younger brother, and given that she's noble-born, probably an older sibling who's inheriting a title since he isn't. He'll end up a Templar. She has basically no contact with him at this point and honestly doesn't even know him. SO YEAH.

Lois has a little sister, Lucy, who she was forced to play mother figure as well as older sister to because their mom died when Lucy was two and Lois was, uh, six. Lucy kinda became an international criminal for a bit. So their relationship is pretty strained really. Lucy really looks up to Lois, but also kind of resents her. Lois is just exhausted and feels guilty.

Tavi has no genetic siblings, but when he was growing up, he was being raised in the same house as his cousins who were the right age to have been pseudo-sisters to him, and he very much considered them such. They died when he was ten-ish, along with Bernard's wife who probably would have had more kids. This actually very strongly affected Tavi in that lurking in the back of his mind remains that knowledge of what it meant not to be an only child and thus less lonely, and will figure into discussions of later children.

R2-D2 probably arguably has astromech siblings. They might've gotten shot in combat by now, though. While the Skywalker-Amidala(-Organa-Solo) family is very much His Family, it is not at all sibling-like.

Anakin is an only child. We're all grateful. He looks at Obi-wan as semi-older brother figure, and Ahsoka eventually as pseudo-younger sister. Goes well.
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[personal profile] have_no_mercy 2016-04-07 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Tess has two half brothers, Lex and Lucas. Lex is not at the top of her list of great people. She has never met Lucas. And then there's Conner, who is also technically her 1/4 brother? Or something? They got along great when he was physically ages 6-12 and then he became a teenager and WHAT CAN YO DO WITH THEM? Once he became Conner, she distanced herself because it's better for him this way.

Kylo... not that we're aware of.
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[personal profile] harryhotspur 2016-04-07 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Hotspur historically had a younger brother (or two? now I can't remember), but that really doesn't fit into the family dynamics that the play establishes. So as far as I'm concerned, he's an only child, very much the vessel into which both his father and uncle poured all their ambitions.

Viola has her twin brother, of course. They were always very, very close, even before their parents passed away, and only more so afterwards.

Segundus I think is also an only child, and I've headcanoned him as being raised by an uncle.

Arabella has an older brother, with whom she was quite close as a child, but they (to her dismay) drift apart somewhat after her marriage.

Marius is an only child CAN'T YOU TELL.
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[personal profile] merryeccentricities 2016-04-07 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
** is an only child ** I shall be dramatically offended and go lay in a field for days about it, now.
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[personal profile] merryeccentricities 2016-04-08 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
If Pierre ever had any brothers or sisters, he's forgotten it--which is possible, he would have been very little and he's forgotten as much as he can about his childhood. But he's most likely an only child, and he's effectively an only child no matter what. (Djali probably had a goat sister! And Esmerelda called Djali her sister, which Pierre being Pierre, he might regard literally. Djali doesn't care. Djali is a goat.)

Joly has a couple of brothers and a couple of sisters-- all older than him (and all necessarily-invented-backstory whoops) and all, as far as he knows, much more proper and respectable and reliable than him, though he'd freely admit they never knew just how Unrespectable he was either, so who knows what they were doing once they left home? He's the youngest of them all and was always a bit the baby of the family; he was beginning to get on with his siblings as independent adults and friends a bit when he died. They may not have been (definitely weren't) his closest confidants, but they did all get along more or less. It's probably telling that he left requests to his older brother, and not his father, to see everything after his death was sorted out to his wishes.

Bahorel has always gotten on well with his sisters and brothers, for the Bahorelian definition of "getting on well" that doesn't rule out the occasional broken nose or months-long Blood Feud prank war. Any distance between them was always only literal; metaphorically, they've always been each other's first and closest allies. Within that crowd, there's of course those he gets on better with for various reasons, but he will turn into a giant aggressive ball of sap about any of them at the least provocation, and they would do the same about him. Probably while calling each other horrible names. He misses them all terrifically, and has been very aware since showing up in Milliways of just how much family he doesn't have anymore.
(And his contentious-and-devoted sibling army is a bit metacanon off the life of the guy he's an homage to, though a lot of the details are necessarily improvised or fictionalized.)