ways_back_room | Monday DE

Seimei doesn't have a canonical romance. I made up one for his Millicanon backstory - specifically, with his second wife, Minamoto no Tsuyu (nicknamed Suzume).

YT canonically has an unrequited crush on one of her canon mates and a brief and very ill-advised fling with another one. Both of these while she had a formal boyfriend, who she did not seem terribly emotionally attached to. I'm not sure that she is, or ever will be, capable of a close, monogamous romantic relationship.

Swamp Thing and Abby Arcane have been a couple since the early 80s, through endless plot convulsions. The story where they have a psychedelic Avatar of Green substitute for sex is a classic, they had a kid (with the unwitting help of John Constantine), and their OTP-ness survived at least two reboots. Oddly, Alec was married before becoming Swamp Thing but she is never ever mentioned.

For Poirot - to paraphrase another work - Countess Rossakoff is THE woman. A woman of mystery, seemingly a refugee from Russia, and definitely a criminal, she has a very strong hold on him. In the books, they meet a few times, with her basically taking advantage of his crush. On TV, they meet only twice, and after the second time he is over her. In both canons, the relationship is chaste, which seems about right for how Poirot is written. (I don't think he's entirely asexual - Christie probably never heard the word, and certainly pretty young women turn his head - but he never comes any closer to real romance than this passing fancy.)

Of my older pups, longtime Milliways'ers will remember that Alex Knox found love in the Bar with the version of Rapunzel from the Fables comic, and that even further back Barry Allen (yes, we had one way back when) hooked up with Sara Sidle from CSI. Cyborg flirted a lot with Steph Brown, which was tons of fun. And Captain Kirk - who definitely had canon relationships to spare - dated a few women in the Bar and came close to falling in love at least twice. It's been way too long since any of my pups met anyone, though.

Jim doesn't care about anything but Sherlock in canon, though it's hardly romantic. More a desire for intimate murder, under a mountain of sexual innuendo.

And now, in Milliways, Sherlock is still all he cares about and it's very definitely romantic.

Lessee. Lesgle is inseparable life/postlife partners with Joly. As far as I'm concerned, he's madly in love with him, and also quite sincerely loved Musichetta, Joly's girlfriend, and everyone was very happy. It would be nice if Hugo would pop in with a message from the grave saying "yeah sure bossuet and joly were doin' it, i swear i lost track of how many of my friends had slept with each other and each other's girlfriends," but I appreciate that he'd have more pressing questions to answer first.

Henry V gets a funny, charming, uncomfortable, unsettling, memorable courtship scene with Katherine of Valois. I'm sure he liked and respected her as a partner in a political marriage. But in Milliways I don't think he's particularly sighing over her memory, especially since learning that she picked up a cute fun boyfriend for herself after he died. He's too busy thinking that Viola's stupid annoying canon love interest is stupid and annoying. While entertaining unfamiliar self-doubt about what he himself can realistically offer Viola, what with being dead.

Gredya's partner was the head of their pack, until he got killed by the goodguys at the end of the first book in her canon. She doesn't have any kind of relationship with the father of the children she's expecting by the end of the third book.

Feuilly is in love with justice and learning and national self-determination. He also has this cute dumbass guy in Milliways that he's seeing. They have dogs together.

William Douglas...oh, lord. It's pretty ambiguous, in both the original and the rewritten plays, whether we're meant to take a queer reading of his relationship with Jamie. (Comparing the versions, I sometimes wonder it was meant to be there in the first version, but the author might have felt like it made things a little too He Dies Because Tragically Gay, rather than Because Destructive Power System, and made some slight adjustments to refocus? But that is 100% speculation on my part. I'd love to ask her.) I've never seen the plays staged, which is a whole 'nother realm of interpretation. To me, it reads like his love for Jamie is partly romantic, though it has a lot more to do with clinging to each other in a really messed-up situation. William just really wants someone to love him. :/

Thoth is sometimes paired with various goddesses, e.g. Ma'at and Seshat, but that has a lot to do with the culture liking to have their gods in pairs and triads. There aren't, like, romantic stories. Buuut one time I found this book in the library that I was using for some visual references and it started out pretty normal and boring and then slowly turned into weird porn? so i've seen someone's published fan-art of Thoth and IIRC Ma'at having sex? Which as far as I know is just that author/artist's funtimes theory? WELP.

Edited 2017-04-03 16:03 (UTC)

*sighs* I mean we'd have to stand in line for that question behind all the people waiting for first names from Hugo's ghost

(they were totally a thing)

There appear to be so many questions, it would probably pay off hire a miko to get it all answered once and for all.

doooogs

No canonical ones for any of mine. There was a time, though, that I (and several other fic writers, evidently) was considering adding a lover to Amascut's backstory and fridging him to explain Amascut's turn, but then actual canon happened and whoa were we glad it wasn't something so trite.

It would have been an Innana and Tammuz inspired story but eh... fridging has been done to death.

Ahsoka is tricky for this one. First because of Jedi, then because of the Empire. Girl has things to do, you know? Still...in the Clone Wars, I would say there was attraction to two different characters, Lux Bonteri and Barriss Offee. Let's just say it's a good thing romance was discouraged, cause if Ahsoka had pursued the attractions, she would've been hurt worse by these guys.

Post-CW, in an unaired script, Ahsoka was to have a brief romance with a scoundrel type character but I can't seem to find his name with Google. N-something. He struck me as a young Han Solo as a used speeder repair person.

Lastly, in the Ahsoka novel, she had another chance at romance with a human woman named Kaeden. I don't remember what exactly happened, but I think Ahsoka leaves with some regret to go try and save the galaxy from itself. As I said, girl has things to do.

Eliot has one serious affair and while it lasts it is amazing for him. Birds sing, there is world peace, and then it all comes crashing down. He does have a thing for Quentin, but that is much more sighing from afar as Quentin clearly has a huge torch for another. Still, Eliot is a good friend, as long as he and Quentin don't get seriously drunk.

Selina is a minor, so I'm not going to look too closely at her. Still, she has a serious thing for Bruce Wayne. He can get her to do things she knows are stupid, but at the same time, she can do the same with him. I honestly like the bisexual Catwoman of the comics, and so I'll assume the same for the TV show until proven otherwise.

Sabine is another minor. I know a lot of fans ship her with Ezra, I don't. To me she is a lesbian and gay as the galaxy is long. I also am uncomfortable with them getting together given how pushy he was in the first couple of seasons, despite her clearly rebuffing him.

Izana has white spoiler text: Their romances are odd. The first person they develop feelings for is Nagate but he is so clueless he never picks up on them, not even when Izana confronts him about it and asks him directly if he cares for them. Their feelings cause the physical shift towards feminine and the tension of whether Nagate will figure things out or act is a running gag for the show. In the manga, Yuhata and Izana end up paired, and I am hoping to plant the seeds of their romance early.

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Hotspur is, of course, married in canon. He liked his wife a lot more than he usually has cause to express. Here in Milliways he's shacking up with some French guy.

Marius's canon romance ~~besides Napoleon~~ is Cosette! She is here, they are very happy, possibly happier than in canon thanks to Milliways magic helping them change the ending of the book.

Viola is canonically and currently in love with Duke Orsino. In Milliways she possibly kind of definitely has quite big crush on Hal but she is IN LOVE WITH ORSINO and cannot quite bring herself to undertake a full examination of what's going on there. So let's just pause and judge her taste in men for a sec.

I'm pausing, I'm judging. I mean even Hal is judging.

....she should just hook up with Ursula and they could live in the woods together in a Hayao Miyazaki world, is what I'm saying.

I WANT her to be queer so badly but I just don't think she IS

Will of all of mine has had the most Milliways' romances and none in canon. He dated Molly Carpenter, Kara Zor-El and then long term was with Kate Bishop until her mun left. I haven't written it but I imagine him having a quiet and lovely romance in Nottingham.

Charles in canon has a small thing with Moira but my read is that Erik is his best partner. In Milliways, he had a wonderful romance with Iris that ended awkwardly but had some fascinating moments.

Quentin dated a human girl Katie who was kidnapped by a Fae and he had to break up with her in a horrible way. Then later in canon, he has another romance. At this point in time, he's dating Yamato.

Sameth doesn't have any romance in the original trilogy, he and Lirael have this weird almost flirting thing that mainly shows how awkward they both are. In Milliways, he had an amazing relationship with Kait and in the newest canon, there's a woman who's interested in him and it makes me so happy. Partly because she's very similar to Kait in terms of being beautiful, competent and very badass, which made me go ha, I knew the kind of woman he likes.

Moist in canon dates and then later is engaged to Spike, which is an interesting one though I've always read them as having a good time but not long term. In Milliways, he's had a lot of good sex and one complicated relationship with Urquhart and at times Saffron.

William in canon is pretty young and in Milliways dated Thalia Grace which was wonderful. I hope at some point to write him some kind of fulfilling relationship in his own world especially now that he's older.

Ivan is known as being a serial dater in canon and not always a good boyfriend, its not until one of the last books that he gets a wonderful wife.

Jane who I just deleted, the whole focus of the canon I've taken her from, Becoming Jane is about her romance with Tom Lefroy that ends with them not ending up together.

Demeter is from the world of the Greek gods which is full of sex but not exactly romance. In Milliways, she had a wonderful relationship with Malcolm Crowe but she tends to be someone who's all for sex and fun nights.

Tumnus, I can't imagine in any kind of romantic interaction with him its all about the friendships like with Lucy.

For the newest pup that I just apped, Cassian spends most of his life working and the Rebellion comes first but the novelization and the actors, I think most of canon ships him with Jyn, I know I do. I also imagine throughout his working life, he's had a few moments of maybe not full on relationships but moments. Its something I'm hoping to explore in Milliways. He needs to be reminded that its okay to have a life beyond the Rebellion, he's allowed.

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William and Thalia were a lot of fun. Too bad they never had a future thanks to Thalia's canon.

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I loved them and how they understood each other.

Eriond and Artoo: N o p e. Ace-aros all the way.

Evelyn: WELL then my version of her--which is not everyone's Inquisitor--is bisexual and currently has a girlfriend. They will be breaking up. She has also had a crush on one of the Templars at Ostwick, historically, until the power imbalance led to them doing something that disillusioned her (about which she is pretty sad, she likes pretty people in armor apparently). She is way pre-game, so her future is not certain. Maybe she'll meet someone in Milliways! Maybe she'll make it to romance options in game! Who knows!

Anakin: Is a stalker and occasionally somewhat abusive and a terrible, terrible husband to Padme. He is the worst. I will give him this much: he is loyal and loves her absolutely. But he has basically worshiped her since he was nine, idealizes her, tries to control her, and generally goes completely and murderously off the deep end when she's in trouble. This ends with the galaxy on fire for, frankly, two or three generations.

Anakin is the worst.

Tavi: has Kitai. I actually have a mixture of love and hate for soulmate bonds, as they are sometimes wonderful and always incredibly creepy, even when done well. Tavi and Kitai fall into that. They're absolutely partners and equals, with different and complementing strengths in many different areas (example: in furycrafting, she's the better at multitasking, although he has more raw power), although she has no interest in governing and so the only reason she won't be an official co-Ruler is that isn't a battle they need to fight, although similar issues will arise with time. Kitai is capable of restraining Tavi when he's in a fit of temper or letting his ethics slack off, and reminding him to respect people and what he can and can't control. Tavi loves her unendingly. It's really awful that Kitai gives up her desire to go wandering with Horses over the next hill to be his wife, and I am Angry, but I have some fixes for that so she gets to travel (more than Tavi, and in some ways is less trapped than he is).

Lois: Whoo-ee has she had boyfriends, including ones she loved. Her first real love ended up a Monster of the Week villain and dead (after both of them had moved on, he even had a different True Love by then). Honestly, she genuinely loved Oliver, and he her. It just didn't work out, for reasons, but taught her a lot. I don't think she really loved her other temporary-but-longer-term boyfriend in Smallville, Grant Gabriel. In comics and other sources, there have been many others--often Lex Luthor, at least once Bruce Wayne. Some fail; some succeed short-to-medium term. One, in the hands of a good writer, sticks.

I could write an essay on this subject, and on why things work and don't and subtleties and variations and things. But I am a lazy person.

So just check the icon, that pretty much covers it.

Wilford doesn't do romance, but that didn't stop him from having an affair with a married woman. That ended with mass murder, when they were caught.

Xephos had a boyfriend in one series, called Cameron. That ended when someone murdered him and put his head on a post in the middle of Xephos' workshop.

Gringoire is technically married to Esmeralda, the ultimate love interest of his canon, but their relationship is said to be "like brother and sister" and he's more interested in eating than lovemaking (which is good there, since she doesn't like him in that way at all).

Joly is in Smittens with his mistress Musichetta, and at least in Complicateds with her and Legle by the end of their story arc. Pretty near everyone seems to agree that they're in some sort of poly something, and it's a cheerful sort of thing, whatever else is going on. In Milliways he's established a slightly firmer sense of Complicateds with Legle (It is not complicated. They're goofballs together.).

Bahorel had a mistress, and their relationship was apparently pretty cheerful and all for funtimes and largely based on them both minding their own damn business. It left him tragically lacking in reasons to wander the moors wailing, which is admittedly a very specific thing to want out of a relationship, but that aside they seem to have been happy enough with the arrangement, for however long it lasted. He pretty definitely had various casual hookups, too, from what we're told.

Tess canonically has had relationships with Oliver and Zod. She hasn't met anyone in Milliways, alas.

Kylo. I'm thinking no and no thank you.

Sikozu had a thing with Scorpius, which... not a thing I liked, but it's there. He dumped her, but it wasn't so much about love so she got over it.

Enjolras canonically does not date, has never dated, but is in a committed relationship with France.

Which is to say that he canonically jokes about how his mistress is Patria (i.e. France), and that he's basically married to his work and consciously eschews romance because of it. Also, he's in an era where close same-gender friendship is a major thing. In Milliways, he could theoretically have a romantic relationship, but it hasn't really happened; he's basically been quietly pining for France and revolutionary work instead.

Cosette has her husband, Marius! They have a blossoming romance full of twitterpated goofiness in their canon, and it continues apace in Milliways -- except, as Lark says, probably even happier because we could change the end of canon.

Thor has a nascent romance in most of the movies with Jane Foster, a human scientist. They definitely have interest and chemistry, but it's sort of hindered by Thor not being on Earth all that much ~~and Natalie Portman not wanting to be in a billion Marvel movies~~. (Also she's human, so it'd always be a relatively brief thing for him even if it lasted her whole lifetime, but you can have a romance that's brief but intensely serious, so.) He's apparently getting a different love interest in Thor 3, and I'm intrigued to see where that goes!

In Milliways, nah, not so far. He's had some recreational mild flirting and good friendships, but not romance.

Kazul has no canonical romance, and in fact nothing canonical actually states whether dragons even do that, though they do have family ties with offspring. I admit, I kind of like the idea of an aromantic society. At any rate, she's the only dragon of her sort in Milliways, so romance would be a non-starter so far even without that.

Doctor Dinosaur: yeah no.

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