ways_back_room | Wednesday DE: Damn canon!

There are too many options in Tess' canon to pick just one, but having her own Dad try to remove her heart was pretty big.

Making Rose watch her mom getting killed sucked.

Kylo [spoiler] [spoiler] [spoiler].

Creed, not letting him kill Logan. Not giving him adamantium. Turing him into a mindless unrecognizable character in XMen which I still refuse to believe is him.

Oh man, the first film Creed was so bad. I sort of head canon that he was a botched clone of the real Creed. Wolverine: Origins had a lot off, but Creed was not one of those things.

I just assume they're different characters. In Origins, he's never called Sabretooth. In X-Men he's never called Victor or Creed. I like to think they did that to keep them separate. At least, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Excellent planning!

While it didn't happen to Graverobber specifically, he's lived through a plague that wiped out a huge chunk of the world's population and then the corporate takeover of GeneCo. Plus, assuming that Graverobber is supposed to be around the same age as the actor playing him (around 32), he would have been very, very young while all of this was going on.

And while Graverobber's pretty easygoing about his circumstances and doesn't gripe too much about them, he is still canonically homeless and living out of a garbage dumpster.

That said, he still did okay for himself canonically, because at least he didn't die or watch a loved one croak in front of him! :D

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Ahsoka: Well, going meta, I am not a huge fan of them putting her in a slave outfit, ala Leia's in RotJ. I also don’t like that she doesn’t exist outside of the TV shows and one book. There are so many stories that have to be there and I don’t get why they aren’t being told. She is a very popular character. Would a mention in a movie be too much? Or a comic of her time between Order 66 and her appearance in Rebels? I'd also love the full story of the Siege of Mandalore.

Going canon, well, where to start? There were the brain worms, that time she thought her uncle/other dad Obi-Wan got killed, getting killed herself (she got better thanks to Anakin), being hunted by Trandosians, being falsely accused of treason against the Jedi Order and the Republic, Order 66, and/or not knowing if Rex was still alive or not for years after 66.

Ultimately, the worst from her point of view? Hey, Vader, what’s good?

Izana: Going meta again, I hate how much they are the butt of sexist slapstick in season 02. I also don’t like how they don’t have their own narrative in the anime, beyond Nagate. The manga is better.

Within canon, they’ll be losing a couple of limbs soon, and then later end up marooned on a planet with guana hunting them. They have nothing but their spacesuit and a mostly useless superior pilot.

Selina: More meta; I hate how her narrative doesn’t really exist beyond Bruce’s. They keep doing scenes where she’s with other friends, like Ivy or Bridgit (aka Firebug), but then dropping them or using them to advance male plots.

Within canon, hard to say as she’s so resilient. I guess having her mom missing for so long, and then her coming back; although I haven’t seen season 03 yet, so I don’t know for sure.

Sabine: Spoilers....but it's pretty horrible, especially since she did it to herself; though her family/Clan's response was pretty damned horrible also.

[breathes in Ahsoka's direction]

I see you got that respirator fixed.

That time it decided Wilford is now a Victorian army colonel called William was pretty bad.

I was at the live show on Sunday, and Fischbach said that Wilford’s dead now when someone asked what the latest instalment meant for the characters. I’m ignoring that too.

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Emcee: he's sent to a concentration camp. No matter how many times I saw the show, the ending was never easy to bear, and my heart broke each time. It's why I wanted to keep his story going here.

Floki: canon pretty much took away everyone he loved. Was it the gods punishing him for killing Athelstan? I think later in life he might come to believe that.

Pam: Eric releases her. Which is the most painful thing a Maker can do to their Progeny short of killing them. Within context he does it for her own good, to protect her, but dammit Eric... Pam resents him for a long while after this and it takes them a long time to get back together. And since the show never makes it clear if vampires can reforge that Bond, Eric-mun and I will have to come up with something ourselves.

Cassidy: comics canon Cassidy is extremely problematic and I never would have apped him if not for the TV version. That being said, I really hope the writers continue to make him more redeemable than the comics version. Because comics Cassidy is literally unforgivable, and I think that's the worst you can do to a character.

Ganymede is still vaguely planning to kidnap Emcee pre-concentration camp if he's allowed. >.>

I'm disregarding canon, so ^.^

GOOD CALL. (I saw emcee's particular production of the play once and once was plenty.)

Meta: Sand.

Meta, seriously this time: let George Lucas write and direct anything but especially the prequel trilogy. Good god. There is a fantastic story at its core, totally eaten by the worst writing and directing out of thr series. Whyyyyy. (Also Hayden was a poor casting choice imo but)

In-world: [breathes]

Rest later

Leaving us on an agonizing cliffhanger hiatus since October that seems likely to have a devastating resolution when we finally see it at the end of February -_____-

(I guess if more just complaining, Hera’s been dropping in as a cameo in things left and right now, but I’d like it if she could get one little canon thing like a book or comic to herself, though did just get a Forces of Destiny comic to herself. Kanan got a two issue background comic, that’s just the kind of thing I’d want for Hera. But more than anything DAVE FILONI GIVE US A TRAILER STOP TORTURING US ;_;)

In-canon, Kanan’s is probably Order 66 (though out of three season finales only one hasn’t involved him being tortured or seriously injured). Hera is harder because she rarely shows vulnerability despite plenty of awful things happening to her, but, she’s also recently had operations she’d planned for months and resources she’d built up for years be torn apart because she’s up against one of the few Imperials who is not only competent but also brilliant at his job, so. That hasn’t been great.

ngl I am stocking up on tissues :|

So much this. I'd love Hera centric episodes or a comic or a book.

THEY GAVE AMASCUT A BACKSTORY, THE HORRIBLE MONSTERS. I remember wondering what would be capable of causing a god to go insane, and then the lore writers came up with two major causes to add onto the minor one that was always been in canon but never made much sense until then.

Killed him two series' too early. *salty 4evar*

Meta-wise, I have a lot less to complain about than if I'd picked almost any other Overwatch character except maybe Tracer. Complaining makes me feel guilty when there are other characters with much bigger and more important holes in their backstories or who've received almost no attention from the story team since launch. I do still fumble a lot with trying to describe Overwatch in threads in a way that stands on its own and makes sense without referencing comic book superhero organizations though.

In terms of awful experiences they would personally rather not have had, their entire origin story, but if they hadn't been built as a killer robot then they just wouldn't have been built at all, so that's not exactly simple to avoid.

Eriond: The worst thing his canon has done to me is be actually chock full of terrible writing, racism, and misogyny--and thus utterly infuriating even when I love it. It's very hard to balance. To him, eh, he came out fine.

Lois: To me: Only be three books. Sob. To her: start setting up her father and her true love to be in conflict even back when she and Clark are teenagers, it's just foreshadowing all the awful to come and it hurts my heart.

Evelyn: To me: WHAT IS WITH YOU SOLAS or, optionally, I need a new DA game goddammit. To her... that Rift mark. Just. Goddammit, Solas. Goddammit.

Artoo: See previous about bad writing, but in-world, taking away all his beloved humans.

Tavi: To me: Butcher tries so hard but he's still sexist and it's not fun. But it's tolerable for the most part, unlike Belgariad/Mallorean. Also all the holes in the worldbuilding I keep finding myself compelled to fill in. (I swear it's a Worst Thing, I keep needing to sink more time and effort into it, sob, i just want to know what aleran music sounds like) To Tavi: ... ooooof. Hmm. Probably the Vord War, and it's not just because lolapocalypse. It's a horrifying time for him, really. It's the first time he really deals with a bumpy romantic relationship, he's struggling with grief over his grandfather's death (plus lots more) and can't rely on anyone, he's struggling with guilt and grief over everything and isn't going to anyone for emotional support (not even Kitai, sometimes), he spends five months taking massive physical punishment to train his furycrafting rapidly and tells no one and has to appear like he isn't horribly sleep deprived and breaking bones frequently, he's literally turning back spring, he's dealing with an intense betrayal by a friend... and basically through all of this he's just powering through refusing to deal with how much of a toll it's taking on him because he can't afford to. So yeah. Vord War.

Cassian: Made him a child soldier who's destroyed himself for the Rebellion, gave him hope, someone who fit him and might have made him happy then they both died.

Charles: Erik and Raven, the becoming partially paralyzed is less important than having his heart broken by both of them.

Quentin: Having his parents send him on a blind fosterage, ended up being for a good reason but still one of the toughest things. Let's see shot by a serial killer, girlfriend kidnapped by one of the scariest Firstborn Fae, all the times he's seen Toby almost die. I know there are more I'm forgetting.

Will S.: Torturing and almost hanging him.

William: Seeing his father shot before his eyes and having his brother be sick with TB.

Ivan: I'm actually about to write an OOM for this, chaining him up within a pump station so that he almost drowns in the dark.

Moist: It hasn't happened yet but fake hanging him to save him.

Sameth: Attacking his cricket team with the Dead, almost drowning him in Death, possessing his best friend, almost destroying the Old Kingdom.

Demeter: Stealing her daughter away.

Tumnus: Having him be so scared that the only way he could think surviving was as a spy, turning him to stone.

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Froze him for 70 years while the world moved on without him and everyone he loved grew old and/or died, except for his best friend who he only thought died but was actually made into a brainwashed assassin ...

Oh, it's so hard to choose! Imperial occupation for nineteen years, the loss of his faith, blowing up Jedha... But the worst is probably watching Chirrut die right in front of him.

Thor: IT'S HARD TO PICK, LOKI.

No, I think... hmm. I was going to say that the worst betrayal was the first, in the first Thor movie, when it turns out that so much of what Thor thought was a bedrock of his world either was a lie, or had just been yanked out from under him, or both. To some extent that's true, but this isn't about worst betrayal, it's about worst thing, and Thor: Ragnarok does some worse stuff to him. Certainly it does worse stuff on a broader scale to Asgard.

Enjolras: ...I mean. See icon. It would've been really nice if that will-Paris-rise-en-masse tipping point had gone the other way (as it very easily could have), and also if rain hadn't ruined the powder and events hadn't generally conspired for their particular barricade to fall in a Let Us Make The Protest Of Corpses massacre. (Which many other historical barricades in that same revolt did not, at least to the same extent! 1832 was a tipping point in various ways, but also Hugo chose to make his particular fictional barricade extra dramatic for symbolism reasons. THANKS, MAN, say his characters.)

Cosette: Canon was awfully damn mean to poor Fantine, and to young Cosette. On the other hand, she did get rescued from that (as her mother did not), and doesn't really remember it, and has a loving father and upbringing since. So I guess I would say the worst thing canon does to her that it doesn't then counterbalance is the very end, when Valjean and Marius -- through the combined forces of the patriarchy, misunderstanding, and internalized self-abnegation -- join forces to have Valjean disappear from Cosette's life against her wishes because they feel it's better for her that way. It sucks! We fixed that in Milliways!

Kazul: Well, there was the time some wizards stuck her in a magic bubble for four days. That was extremely irritating. Or the time some wizards stuck her friend Mendanbar inside a magic bubble in his own castle for several years; the effects on her there were more indirect, but still deeply inconvenient. (Kazul's canon is pretty mild, as awful things go.)

Doctor Dinosaur: THE STUPID MAMMAL ROBOT KEEPS NOT DYING

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yyyyeah sorry you have such a crap brother, thor

to be fair he--

wait, I have no idea of people are still avoiding Ragnarok spoilers; I guess I'll rot13 just in case

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