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bjornwilde ([personal profile] bjornwilde) wrote in [community profile] ways_back_room2018-12-03 07:50 am
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Monday DE: Shoot me down, but I won't fall

How potent is your character(s)'s plot armor?
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[personal profile] ceitfianna 2018-12-03 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Cassian: Not that much, but the TV show will provide more detailed answers.

Quentin: It grows stronger through the series but he still gets hurt.

Charles: Eh, its Marvel, depends on the version but Charles tends to get hurt in every movie.

Sameth: Middle of the road, he gets hurt but rarely at risk of actually dying.

Moist: Discworld laughs at the idea of plot armor.

Ivan: Fairly strong though its not always easy to see.

Demeter: Greek goddess so very strong

William: Fairly strong

Will S.: Depends on the version of the legend

Tumnus: Decently strong but that's not obvious at first
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[personal profile] cottoncandypink 2018-12-03 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Either non-existent or godmode, depending on how you look at it.
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[personal profile] quick_clean_pure 2018-12-03 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Graverobber's is pretty strong because he really should have gotten shot in the face in the first five minutes of Repo, and yet he wasn't.

Dumbledore's is so far not that strong, since he mostly is not involved in the major battles (except for Book 5, and even then his opponent ran away), and then Book 6 happens and, uh...spoilers happen.
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[personal profile] cute_bruiser 2018-12-03 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam's is quite literally godmode, not least because he's the protagonist.

Molly's is similar, though less because she's the protagonist and more because she's based on her creator's little sister (she even has two thirds of the same name as Molly Hayes Vaughan). When BKV moved on from the book, the only requirement made of the new writer (Joss Whedon, so, uh... I can't blame BKV for stipulating) was 'Don't kill Molly'. Even as a kid, she's also officially classified as the fourth toughest Marvel female, so... good luck with that.

Minerva's is surprisingly good considering she's an older mentor figure and a bit of a hero to the protagonist. It's reinforced on three counts: 1) there is already another mentor figure to have a tragically heroic death (sorry Albus!), 2) she's a total fucking badass who did not survive 3 wars by accident, and 3) Harry Potter will absolutely fuck you up if you mess with her.

Snow Leopard Woman is a mythological figure and basically kind of a goddess, so she also gets god-mode plot armour... well, most of the time. In the children's book I originally took her from, she appears to die, but apparently from old age. I'm not sure if this actually works like this in the proper mythology.

Raoul has been surprisingly lucky so far, considering his position as a fatherly mentor to Kel of Mindelan and Disposably Good Friend to Tamora Pierce's first protagonist, Alanna of Trebond. I'd like to think that he's too badass to kill, but realistically it probably has more to do with Alanna having enough tragedy to deal with already in her quartet and his position as commander in Kel's. While he is most definitely a hands-on leader, he's also usually surrounded by other people, many of whom are quite prepared and willing to die for him.

Victoria can be hurt, and might even lose a fight, but she's probably safe from anything worse on the grounds of being played by Helen Goddamn Mirren. Is there a writer in the 'verse who'd risk killing her off? Plus she's from an action comedy, so too many heroic deaths (sorry Joe! ;_;) wouldn't be funny.

Coulson is sipping coffee (on Tahiti!) and giving me That Look.

Poe and BB-8... God knows. Poe is a Dashing Pilot, which tend to be very likely candidates for heroic death, but I'd assume he's probably safe in the current trilogy as he appears to be one of the new Golden Trio to succeed Leia, Luke and Han. Though if there's a second trilogy in the future I wouldn't fancy Poe's chances... He's still quite likely to get the crap kicked out of him, though, as TFA demonstrated. BB-8 is probably too cute (and too merchandisable!) to die... At any rate, he'd better be.

War... uh. She's just looking at me funny now.
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[personal profile] angry_friendship_wolf 2018-12-03 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yamato: The existence of Digimon Adventure 02's epilogue more or less precludes him from dying. We know he's still around thirty years in the future, after all. It doesn't preclude him from being injured, though, and he and Taichi tend to take the brunt of physical injuries. 01 sees him nearly die of pneumonia, get beaten up twice, get strangled, and get bitten in the leg; Tri sees him and Taichi both take enough damage that they can barely stand, and later has him nearly drown. And that's saying nothing of all the emotional injuries he takes.

Gabumon: Gabumon, meanwhile, can be reborn, so he has no plot armour and dies halfway through Tri. It could be worse, though, because Patamon dies in 01 and again in Tri. The Digimon get beat up on a semi-regular basis, but generally any non-fatal injuries vanish when they de-evolve.

Eden: Could be better! Could be better. As the protagonist of his game, you'd think he'd have iron-clad plot armour. He does not.
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[personal profile] i_am_your_host 2018-12-03 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Emcee: weak. He gradually breaks down and deteriorates, and he is not meant to survive, neither the physical character nor what he metaphorically represents in the context of Cabaret.

Cassidy: strong. He's one of the three central characters, and a vampire that can withstand a lot of abuse. If he dies on the show, I will personally riot.

Pam: strong. She's also a vampire. It would hurt Eric too much if she were killed off, and nobody wants Eric broodier and angstier than he already is.

Floki: ridiculously strong for a human. Who else would build those magnificent ships? And it would seem to me that older vikings were uncommon, because you know, dying in battle and all that. But Floki lives long enough to set foot on Iceland and establish a colony (though frankly I don't think he will survive this current season of the show).
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[personal profile] cameoflage 2018-12-03 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Bastion: Blizzard did say that characters can die in the story and still be playable in the game so being playable won't protect them. Other than that, moderate, since they're part of the main ensemble but they're one of the less popular playable characters.

Wilson: He's the face of the game; this canon has temporary death so he can be killed as many times as desired, but if he were to die unrecoverably or get stuck as a merm or something, who would be in the trailers? I suppose that doesn't apply to a theoretical grand finale, but permakilling the main character doesn't seem in keeping with the tone of Don't Starve.

Aradia: This is a solved question. She was dead for the first half of her screen time, and wasn't killed again after her resurrection. Whether she survived the ending is ambiguous but I don't see why she wouldn't have, even if she doesn't spend much time on Earth C.

Thurlow: Since they're the player character rather than one of several, if they die for good, the story ends. (They also have temporary death, but this is used kind of like how other canons use knocking people unconscious; it's usually a minor setback.) This is not out of the question; there's already one ending programmed into the game where you either die or get transformed into something unable to interact with the world anymore, I haven't played it and Failbetter Games has expressed a preference that it not be spoilered.

Cirava: Doomed by canon, because they exist in the Homestuck universe and are not a Sburb player. Could plausibly be killed off in Hiveswap before that even happens, considering how large the cast is and how lethal Alternia is.
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[personal profile] exiled_heir_of_the_eighth 2018-12-03 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Almost non-existent. There's a reason Sahaal is absolutely covered in scars.
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[personal profile] holdingacat 2018-12-03 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Spoiler-free: over all, very strong, though he gets hurt on the reg.

Spoilers: The god(dess?) Huntocar is not gonna let Cecil die. She has already averted his death at least once. She doesn't seem to mind him taking damage however... quite a lot of damage. Get it together Huntocar.
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[personal profile] death_gone_mad 2018-12-03 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
For a canon in which gods have been murdered (Spoiler: Even the Elder Goddess who messed up Amascut so bad originally was euthanized by her daughter) Amascut, a pretty low tier goddess, is in no way safe. I don't even know what her status is at the plot point I am bringing Fairy Fixit in from because a bunch of new world changing content meant to attract new players was pushed out before old storylines could be wrapped up, one of them being Amascut's arc. There are hints from her brother and there was even a Halloween holiday event that showed Amascut still alive and causing trouble by taking advantage of the god murdering happenings. But who knows what might be retconned. Holiday events have dubious canonicity.

But then again she has never gotten in a direct conflict with anyone except her sister, an even lower tiered goddess of sociability. Amascut doesn't really test her plot armor. That's what minions are for. Unless you call her ability to escape and always have a backup plan, which I suppose is Bruce Wayne/David Xanatos styled plot armor, I have no idea.

Fairy Fixit is a minor NPC from a storyline that has been wrapped up. She was never involved in any direct conflict either, just some subtle subterfuge she was never caught doing. She has plot armor in that canon doesn't care about her anymore, but then again canon doesn't care and she doesn't have plot armor.
Edited 2018-12-03 22:55 (UTC)
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[personal profile] shinyhappygoth 2018-12-04 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Enzo: Pretty well guaranteed not to get killed, but the original Enzo Matrix lost his eye, his home, his innocence, and his youth in one fell swoop. That said, as the backup copy, Enzo v2's role is essentially to be the one who doesn't turn out like that, so I'd say his plot armor is somewhat more solid than v1's was, and he's certainly immune to having the same stuff happen to him.

Zecora: ...it's My Little Pony. Yes, she's among the populace who regularly suffer through villains, monsters, and disasters ranging up to the apocalyptic, but they're always resolved with zero casualties and probably not even lasting property damage within a maximum of two episodes (or one movie).