DE: The Weekend Edition

[bjornwilde]

 From nocarename :

What potential pups have you never been able to fit into Milliways?

Possible reasons may include: excessive canon mangling (anyone living in the 163X setting. They have an incredible ability to munchkin), incompatible metaphysics (my only personal example here would be Marc C. DuQuesne from Grand Central Arena), and inability to function in Bar (Croup and Vandemar would, I think, come the closest here).

More examples! More categories! See if anyone else can spackle over the problem!

Comments

[damncompass]

I have a couple historical fiction characters that I just wouldn't be able to bring to the bar setting because they're so much products of the era. That's why I ended up giving up John Adams. He just chafed so bad at the bar.

The other big one that I haven't been able to fit is Diana from Next to Normal. Because of her hallucinations of Gabe, I don't know if I'd have to app Gabe as well, or if Gabe would just technically be a part of Diana, because he basically only exists in her head.

I also have one that I'd app in a heartbeat, and would love the bar, but I can't find a PB for to save my ass.

[bjornwilde]

Care to give a description of the last pup and see if anyone has a suggestion?

[damncompass]

Sure, actually.

The character is Nadia McConnell from the musical Bare. She's a large girl, not just stage-large, actually pretty damn big. My problem is that all of the possible people I've found for her are too glamourous. She's more a punk-kid, multi-coloured hair, spicing up her Catholic school uniform with as much as she can get away with, that kind of thing. I've thought of the girl from Glee, but she's just not right in my head for some reason.

So, yeah.

[street_sparrow]

There's not enough photos available of girls who've actually played her?

[a1enzo]

*jabs finger at prior DE*

[bjornwilde]

Mulan has been haunting me since season two of Once Upon A Time. Her problem had been, and still is, not enough canon. Normally, to solve this problem, I would just bring the pup in pre-canon. But this doesn't work with Mulan as she needs to be ignorant of modern technology when she meets Emma and Mary Margaret. I could bring her in after season 2 but before season 3 but why wouldn't she try to bring Aurora and Phillip in with her since they are basically living in a wasteland? And so far for season 3 we only have two episodes with her.

Nidhogg (from the Sarah Beauhall series) is another I've been tempted with but she is a godlike dragon suffering from dementia who occasionally has violent outbursts. Okay, it only happened once in canon but it would need to be a possibility in order for her to be true to character. I had thought of arranging a handler for her before her first EP, i.e. an existing Milliwyas patron who could calm her down before the explosion, but I wasn't sure how to go about doing that and didn't want to saddle the responsibility on someone.

I think my biggest trouble with pups is finding reliable time to play.

[yakalskovich]

An ateva; any ateva, really. The 'Foreigner' series is my favourite bit of science fiction ever, hands down, no competition possible. The one time I ever for real as a fully grown person missed a bus stop because I was so fascinated by what I was reading? When 'Precursor' was newly out, I was reading it for the first time, and there was this massive reveal that subtly changed everything we had known about some of the atevi protagonists. I really, really care about them, and I would love to bring Banichi or Ilisidi, maybe even Cajeiri...

But atevi won't work on their own, and even with a number of associated atevi in Milliways, interaction with humans (and suchlike) would be hard, there would most likely be an incident of some sort which would end up with all the atevi in the cells and then banned, collectively, from Milliways forever. It's better that I don't even feel tempted to try.

[minkhollow]

Oblio from The Point: I can never see past "Is this still the Pointless Forest?"

Steven Banks, Steven Banks Home Entertainment Center: I cannot sustain that level of off-the-wall manic energy for long enough to do him justice. But I have been tempted.

Blackmail, Villains By Necessity: Part logistics, part headvoice rebellion (Cata didn't like the idea of sharing headspace with him, and then things necessitated I app Sam instead). Logistics-wise, he spends most of canon not talking. It'd be a good challenge for me not to be able to fall back on the Black Void of Witty Banter, but also difficult to pull off.

[street_sparrow]

Caleb from Buffy, for sort of the same reasons as Croup and Vandemar. Even if he managed to control himself for a while, he'd end up trying to kill somebody, possibly actually killing somebody dependent on mun approval, and then it would just be impossible to play him for much longer.

[agonistes]

Eric Cartman.

I'd give him plot. And feelings.

[camwyn]

Commissar Ciaphas Cain and his adjutant Trooper Ferrik Jurgen of the Imperium of Man in the Warhammer 40k setting. The Imperium is a violently xenophobic setting and while Cain is more flexible than most, contact with so many different xenos in a setting that's so absolutely blatantly chaotic would be impossible for a 40k character to properly handle. Plus, Jurgen is a psychic blank, which means that he cancels out psychic, chaos, magic, etc. powers in his vicinity. Including the power of major demon princes of Chaos and major artifacts. There is a very good chance the Bar would unravel if he showed up. The fact that he is also the smelliest, filthiest soldier in the Imperium of Man- and the Imperium's subjects number in the trillions- probably would not help, although it would be hilarious.

Doctor Adoullah Makhslood from Throne of the Crescent Moon. He could probably be fit into the Bar if I thought I had even the slightest chance of playing him properly without it seeming like cultural appropriation or failure of cultural understanding.

Both Hektor of Troy and the Silver Corporal (he's from two stories by pulp writer Lester Dent, he who gave the world Doc Savage) were too much the products of their settings to work quite right in Bar. There's too much explicit magic for Hektor and the Corporal kinda wasn't geared for anything other than pulp adventures in the frozen Northland.

[ceitfianna]

At one time I considered trying to play Eowyn, but her voice wasn't there and I don't know Lord of the Rings well enough to feel confident playing her.

I usually have the opposite of this problem, there are characters I'd love to try playing but they don't take up residency. That's why I don't acquire new headvoices as quickly as other people, it takes a lot for them to choose to stay in my head. But when they do, they're there for good.

[ashen_key]

Shannon Foraker, from the Honor Harrington novels. I have a PB! I adore her to pieces! There are like thirteen or fourteen novels, with a lot of technological exposition, and a huge timeline, and she doesn't quite get people (computers, yes, she loves computers).

And yet I still want to do that OOM with the link-text "Oops", because it'd be amazing. Sigh.

Budur Radwan, from the novel Years of Rice and Salt, actually has a journal! (bird_on_the_wing) And I love her, and have wanted to RP her for years, but there is...a loooot of working in playing a Muslim lady from an alternate Earth, and world-building the gaps, and ahhhhhhhh. So, maybe one day. But maybe not D:

On the matter of 'Oops'

[nocarename]

As I remind myself, a single scene is not enough to justify a pup.



No matter how much I'd like to have a character call Tony Stark, Aluminum Lad.

Re: On the matter of 'Oops'

[redintheledger]

I knoooooooooooooooooooooooow. And I think she's kinda...Doesn't Get People Enough that she wouldn't work in a social-setting that much, unfortunately.

But dammit, if it was not one of the best moments in the series. Never. Ever. Ever. Piss off the computer genius.

[nocarename]

My latest 'Probably Wouldn't Work' is Taylor Hebert from Worm.

Which I am not up to date on (I learned my lesson about taking big gulps of canon from WTNV when I burned out my ability to be weirded out over a single weekend) and is not closed yet.

Not that those are the problem, in and of themselves. No, it's her terrible munchkin tendencies. Give someone like that access to the Bar, and her increasing depth of, let's call it 'plot activities' and move on and down that road lies doom and deeply altered timelines.

Also, alternate worlds are an important plot point which is full of potential issues when you bring the Bar in.

[sonofjotunheim]

It's no secret that I would app this guy in a heartbeat if not for the fact that there's already an MCU Loki, and mine's an AU version anyway.


I also have a Harry Lockhart pup in the sandboxes I'm damn fond of, but I'm not sure how well he'd work in the bar himself. There's also the Ford Prefect pup I've had for a long damn time, and would love to bring into the bar, but again, I think he needs canonmates to work.

[jothra]

Deadpool. Just... Deadpool. I have a journal and everything, but there's no way I'd be able to keep it up to play him on a long term basis.

[sdelmonte]

I played Sideshow Bob for a while some years back. His voice is still incredibly strong. But he is, for lack of a better word, a cartoon character. He is from a very strange and unique canon, and he doesn't interact well with others. And he doesn't change. Even recent efforts to get him away from being one dimensional circled back around to inept criminal mastermind. So I had to let him by the wayside.

[cameoflage]

I almost didn't app Thurlow until I switched my perspective-gears from 'Fallen London OC' to 'my interpretation of the protagonist'. (In Bar continuity, at any rate.) Before that occurred to me I figured they were incompatible with the Bar because of the rule against OCs, so I just stuck to the sandboxes.

Other than that false alarm, I don't have any fandom characters I was able to lure in to my creative brain but that wouldn't work here. (Although I had my doubts about whether it was a good idea to play both Zimmy and Gamma out of one journal. However I gave that one up because I didn't know what the hell was going on with them in canon and had been wrong every time I tried to guess.)