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DE: Memory Lane
Inspired by the nice plot suggested yesterday: what was your charrie like as a kid? Are they still an organic continuation of who they were, or has there been some dramatic break in their formative years that made them who they are? If so, when did it happen, and what was it?
Bonus: do you have icons for a de-aged version of them?
Bonus: do you have icons for a de-aged version of them?
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I do not have a de-aged icon for him yet. I'm trying to find one of a Japanese boy in traditional dress who looks both sufficiently adorable and sufficiently bratty.
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Gene is actually more ambiguous than I used to think. Because on the one hand, it'd be really easy to have him a boisterous young thing, roaming the streets with a knackered football, smoking behind bike sheds etc...on the other hand, he came from an abusive household and is actually a hell of a lot smarter than he appears. So I tend to think that yes, he was a normal young kid in the 30s and 40s, a definite product of his environment, but underneath the bravado was a lot more sensitive to the problems in his life and community. The vision he creates of himself after he's died is what he wanted to be, and the world is the world as he wants it to be, not as it actually was. But it's canon that he managed to create that place from sheer force of anger and will, so it's obvious that he had a lot inside him even as a young guy.
Javert - it's stated in canon that from a young age, he made the choice of how he wanted to be and how he saw the world. It's his fatal flaw: he made the decision and stuck to it rigidly for the next fifty years or so, and never changed. So yeah, he's kind of like he is now in attitude and character, but I imagine with a lot less pride in what he managed to make of himself. At ten, he'd be nothing but another impoverished gutter rat, either living with his mother or having been taken from her and put in an orphanage, depending on whether she was still in jail when he turned five.
Valjean was canonically a quiet and somewhat surly young man. At age ten, though? His parents would already be dead, but his sister's husband would still be alive and he wouldn't yet be supporting her and all her kids. So he might actually be kind of happy! *gasp* He's a peasant lad, can't read or write, roaming around the countryside. He probably helps out with the kids and with whatever his sister's husband did, but he hasn't had all the shit yet that crushes him later.
Bruce Wayne - hahaha. Parents are dead by age ten. 'nuff said, probably.
Bruce Banner - quiet, withdrawn, with occasional bouts of red-mist fury. I haven't talked about his past in-bar because I don't know if the MCU is going to mention it, or go the same route as comic canon. But if they do, then his father is abusive and killed his mother, so Bruce as a child is...angry.
Courfeyrac was a younger and even cuter ray of curly-headed sunshine. Cheeky as hell, sharp as a tack, running rings around his tutors and somewhat upright father. I don't think he'd have fully grasped the concept of Republicanism at age ten, particularly with a nobleman as a father, but he'd certainly be thinking for himself and asking searching questions. And having a lot of fun. :D
Pearly - like he is now, but smaller. Just as much crazy in a pint-sized package.
Jack Aubrey was much as he is now! He was on he Navy books at nine, though he didn't go to sea until twelve. He was canonically (IIRC) running off to look at the sea and the ships, not concentrating on his lessons. He was a well-off kid who lived a country life until he could get away to the water, happy and smart, but didn't care much about education unless it pertained to sea life.
Jim Moriarty - oh, was a joyous young thing. Not. I don't think he'd committed his first murder by ten - the first boy he killed was eleven, but Sherlock couldn't find Jim as a classmate, or how he was linked to the murder. But anyway, he was certainly gearing himself towards crime around that age. He was isolated by his intelligence, laughed at: he said he's spent his whole life looking for distractions, so we can assume that he was bored in school and looking for ways to keep himself entertained. I imagine him as manipulative and dark, though perfectly capable of behaving like an angel to fool grown ups, and then talking other kids into doing awful stuff which he never got the blame for. The sort of child other parents would worry having around their own kids, but never able to prove anything he's done, or put their finger on exactly why he gives them the creeps.
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The Bruces: :(
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Hank: He's tempting and likely is a know it all brat who hasn't learned that not everyone wants to know things or be told facts. He's insecure about his feet and hides them as much as he can. If I bring him in, here's his actor as a kid. Convenient yes?
Ahsoka, Sabine, and Selina are only a few years past 10, so this doesn't quite work for them.
10 year old Eliot is tempting, but I think I want to get his adult voice in my head before I start those games. Especially since spoilers.
Izana and Amelia aren't playing along. Izana, I think, would have been a very curious kid who loved toys that allowed you to build things.
I'm afraid I am getting no hints of what 10yr old Sam was like.
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Ten years old, Sonya's pretty much a tomboy, but at the age where she's also kinda/sorta showing a guilty fascination in 'girly' pursuits like fashion. This of course she keeps to herself because growing up around boys, she's embarrassed at the mention. She's energetic and for the most part well behaved except for the occasional good-natured prank.
Even this young, the mention of home will cause her to suddenly go silent. Her mom's a functioning alcoholic and her dad's often on assignment in the army, so she'll often find excuses to hang out with friends or at her aunt and uncle's house.
This will be Sonya's 'ten year old' PB.
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Viola is quite different! Her father won't die for another three years, so she's entering into about the last time in her life when she doesn't have some kind of concern about how to secure her future and get by floating around in the back of her mind. Her and her brother are about as inseparable as they'll ever be, I think, as they're just on the cusp of their social training sharply diverging.
Marius is shy, serious, and has no friends. Oh, wait.
The backstory I've made up for Segundus has him being raised by an uncle who was an Oxford don, so I think he also didn't spend vast amounts of time in the company of other children, or at least only the children who shared the relatively unusual social world of the university. So, still shy, still a nerd, probably slightly less self-conscious, if only because he hasn't yet begun the social decline that makes him feel like he's floating on the fringes of a social group he doesn't really belong to.
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also Marius D:
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Asami was more precocious and rambunctious than I think people would expect given how she is now. She had a tendency to explore places without asking permission, wander off without telling others where she was going, and take things apart/build things as she felt like it. Her personality became somewhat more subdued after her mother died, though she still carried on doing many of these things, and as she grew up I think more than losing this aspect of herself, she just found productive ways to channel these tendencies.
Abigail was bookish to the extreme and asked a lot of questions. She pretty much wanted to know everything about what was going on all the time, though she was also shy enough that she mostly limited this behavior to her parents. As she grew older she realized that direct questioning wasn't always the best way to gain information, and so became more reserved in that respect, though at the same time became more apparently extroverted as she worked out how she wanted to talk to others.
Katara was really a lot like how she is now – caring to the point of bossy, very dedicated to others and to making sure her village survived. Before her mother's death she was more playful and silly, but after that and her father's departure, she really adjusted to take on the empty space left by her parents. She still maintained a lot of hope and a certain amount of childlike romanticism/wonder, but especially in the immediate aftermath of her mother's death, she was much quieter than she had been before, much more serious and dedicated to doing her chores and taking on the kind of tasks that she hadn't had to before.
Elle at ten was mostly drifting in and out of drug-induced psychosis, so...
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Feuilly by my backstory has just started working for a sign-painter. He's on his way to becoming who he is: teaching himself to read and write, trying to absorb as much as he can of the world. He and kid!Valjean are in very much the same place at this age, really: peasant orphans with only a very little bit of a safety net. But Feuilly is lucky enough to bump into some life skills that Valjean doesn't access.
Hal is probably not such an asshole yet? Like, ten is a pretty okay age for him! He's getting a high-end medieval education, learning how to be a baby duke. In a couple of years, everything's going to get really weird for him, with his father getting exiled and then dispossessed and eventually usurping the throne, but at ten? He probably gets along just great with his dad! ...and uh, as with Harry Percy, the whole killing-people-in-battle thing is still a matter of theoretical education.
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KyloBen Solo is a pretty happy kid at age ten. He doesn't have any dark lords whispering in his ear yet and training with Uncle Luke is pretty fun!no subject
Ysalwen is a quiet and contained little person who walks around trying to make herself smaller than she is and is really good at listening around corners. Her magic is definitely not under complete control yet, so she gets in trouble for moments of temper. Those are few and far between these days. She's not very outgoing.
Wonder Woman is an outgoing athletic person who would rather be doing weapons training than more mathematics, but she'll only complain a little before doing it anyway because these are things a Princess Should Know. And she understands her responsibilities. She's very carefree, really, on the whole. Dignity comes later.
Dean Winchester is a very responsible and worried kid who is constantly looking out for Sam and his dad, and chafing under that responsibility even as he understands that there's no one else to do it and thus steps up to the plate. A boy older than his years who would like to act a little bit under them, honestly.
Nynaeve is a tomboy running around in the woods with her father. She's still got her quick temper, but she's a lot less defensive with it.
Flemeth refuses to share.
Raven remains himself, always and ever. Even when he was ten he wasn't ten. His mom sure thought he was, but he definitely wasn't.
Michael is another one who never had a childhood, or never even pretended to have one. Not quite birthed fully-formed from the head of her Father, but. You know. She was certainly more dudely at the time, though! He was. Whichever.
Galadan was uh. Basically a fully adult-looking man having the emotional capability of a three year old. It's a problem with andain. They choose to grow up fast physically and then. Um. Well. Things go poorly. Though if he were 10 and hadn't made the decision to look older -- he would be a tiny and autocratic sort of person that likes to fuck with you and isn't so good at hiding it?
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Will was poor and busy, knowing the streets of Nottingham and getting familiar with Sherwood. His family was always on the edge of starving so at that age, he was learning how to steal. Growing up he had more family alive before their era got to them. I have an icon that I've used for him before as a little kid.
Charles was overly serious for his age and by ten had some control of his telepathy but it still overwhelmed him. He was a lonely kid until Raven arrived at about his age 9 because he knew that he wasn't like the other kids. The war brought people together in a lot of ways but he was always aware of everyone else's thoughts and it took him a while to learn what to respond to and what he should know. I have some icons of him from the movie and I think I'll probably deage him but its going to be heartbreaking for him to age up and be back in his chair.
Quentin's only seventeen and I don't think I'll deage him as too much of his growing up life is complicated by where he's doing it. He didn't become a foster at Shadowed Hills until 14 and before that was living with his family in a knowe in Canada. One interesting physical difference is that when he was younger, his hair was very blond, the canon description is dandelion fluff. All Daoine Sidhe have hair like that until their teens when their true hair color grows in.
William would have been living in the midst of the Civil War, his father away, his brother sick and trying to do all he can for his family. I think somehow he would have been more worn out and not as good at managing everything. Thanks to Flynn, I actually do have an icon of young Logan Lerman to use if I wanted to bring him in.
Moist was living in Uberwald and enjoying the Lipwigzers that his grandparents raised, his parents have died by that point I think. I'd need to check the dates and he would be a precocious child who's starting to push back at the constraints of Uberwaldian society.
Jane was smart and curious and freer because as a young girl she didn't have as many restrictions on her as a young woman.
Sameth would be closer to his sister, starting to realize how much he liked making things and always worried about his parents. I think that's about the age that he and Ellimere would really start to understand how much their parents aren't around due to their duties. I think I might have an icon for him.
Demeter, hm, a younger her would be far more dangerous and spending more time with gods rather than mortals.
Ivan would be spending most of his time with Miles, Elena and Gregor sometimes. He's bratty but also protective of Miles and annoyed at how his mother wants him to behave. I don't have an icon for him.
Tumnus would hm, I'd need to think about timing with that and decide would it be before or after the White Witch.
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(also pffft Legle had hair.)
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Gaeta was a slightly obnoxious know-it-all convinced that book smarts were the be-all, end-all of life. He'd also get completely baffled when people didn't follow the rules. That's what rules are for. Don't break them! That's not fair! Basically, he and Hermione Granger would've been BFFs.
Alistair had just been shipped off to the Chantry, which...on the one hand, he wasn't sleeping in the Redcliffe stables anymore! But on the other, the monastery was awful and one of the absolute last places he wanted to be, except for the specified times of day he got to run around and whack things with a practice sword. Canonically, he enjoyed screaming his head off when things got too quiet and offering an innocent, "Just checking!" when the brothers rushed over to see what was wrong.
I have a kid!Gaeta icon left over from some sandbox fun I did a few years ago -- turns out Alessandro Juliani had a cameo in a Macgyver episode when he was about eleven or twelve years old! -- but nothing yet for either Curtis or Alistair. I'm definitely bringing kid!Curtis in and am about 50/50 on both Gaeta and Alistair.
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Shephard was louder, less disciplined, and a little less profane, mostly because Momma could stop him or would hear about it if he cussed in public. Got an icon for him, too.
Stacker was a bit of a hellion, although he wasn't full-on super-angry just yet, because nobody murdered his father until he was twelve. You wouldn't peg him for a future leader of giant monster killers, though.
Hernan was a good kid around his parents and adults who spoke Spanish. He was not a big fan of the Anglos who said unpleasant things about his family. It's a good thing he had his sister Valentina to more or less keep him in line, because a ten-year-old Kryptonian with class and ethnicity issues could be a nightmare very, very easily.
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A tanned kid with sun bleached hair, running around on the beach, climbing rocks, swimming.
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Athelstan was quiet and bookish and still utterly, utterly wide-eyed with joy and wonder at the monks' library and the promise they'd take him along travelling in the future.
Childermass, on the other hand, was the scrappiest little brat ever, with a thing about injustice. He'd take on men twice his size for picking on the other street kids - especially the girls - and wasn't in the slightest afraid to kick them where it hurts and/or bite them hard so the other kid could run like hell. He was perpetually bruised because of this, but he didn't care and he'd do the same thing a dozen times again. He also had a budding magical talent that he couldn't really consciously control yet.
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Joly at ten is Joly; more wide-eyed and more openly affectionate and curious and without any of the experiences that will push him to radicalize yet. He's sick a lot, and home-schooled, so a little isolated, but he has his older sisters and brothers and his parents and teachers; a happy little nerd who mostly gets on with everyone aside from the odd sibling disagreement.
Bahorel at ten lacks the self-reflection and sense of humor and perspective that will mellow him out so much as he gets older.( No, really.) He's also got a lot more immediate responsibility in some ways;these are the turning years for the family fortunes, where the farm's going from Prosperous Family Farm to Profitable Agricultural Business, and everyone in the family is having to throw their weight into making that happen. Plus there's school, which is Complicated. But he's still a cheerful boisterous mini-Jacobin who runs riot every chance he gets and is absolutely certain that, while his parents may be wise and terrifyingly perceptive about things like who, exactly, put footprints on the ceiling, adults, and authorities as a general species, don't know what they're doing and should be ignored whenever possible if anyone's ever going to get things done.
Hmm, and I don't have icons for any of them. Things to do...
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Then at around eight or nine years of age (who knows?), he was taken in by a prostitute who lived in a brothel. The ladies there were the first adults to be truly kind to him and take an interest in him as a person. They taught him everything, to read and write and speak in different languages. Of course he was taught a lot about sex. Just good old fashioned sex education from professionals. So he had a very liberal upbringing in that sense, with the understanding that there can be all sorts of relationships between all kinds of people.
He was actually quiet and well-behaved, but then again, it's the quiet ones you have to look out for. He was very inquisitive, asked a lot of questions, enjoyed talking to strangers. He was clever, sweet, funny, quick to laugh, and delighted in making mischief now and then. Like he would get in trouble for hiding in the closets when the prostitutes were working. Shenanigans!
Some would say he came out of all this remarkably well-adjusted, but he's experienced his share of trauma, abuse, death, disease, poverty, and the pain of hunger and cold. I think it's his spirit that kept him from turning into a horrible adult.
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Eriond was very much always himself, although at ten he was slightly less talkative.
Henry is a kid.
Evelyn, at ten, was a little less beaten down. Otherwise the same.
Lois at ten was rambunctious and rebellious when she wasn't trying desperately to be Grown Up and Surrogate Mom to six-year-old Lucy. Still pretty herself, but she still had faith in her father and wasn't quite as out of control as she later got for a bit.
R2 does not really experience this.
Anakin at ten... uh. ... well he's already obsessing over Padme. And already emotionally unstable. Just, you know, not suffering from years of manipulation by Palpatine and the effects of the war and puberty and all. The seeds are there, there was just a chance he might not have turned out he way he did. Also while I could have child icons for him--no. No no no no no. Not ever. I refuse.
Tavi was perkier and happier until about ten. He didn't have furycrafting but he assumed he'd get in in a couple years, and his aunt and cousins hadn't died, so he was kind of a big brother and his uncle was happy (Isana... was a mess but he didn't know that). He compensated for boredom with creativity and read as much as he could and already wanted to go to the Academy one day, but he didn't have some of the reasons he later does. He was generally just less complicated. Most of the changes were wrought by family dying and then book one activating potential. That said, even at ten, pissing him off could lead to him going quiet and thoughtful and then directing that creativity into taking revenge, and it would not necessarily be pretty. I do actually have icons! I probably won't participate in the plot, though.
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*cough*
Unless I end up finding it funnier to have full-grown Liranan shepherding tiny!Ysalwen.
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*solemn*
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Though I do love the tiny!Diana version in the animated Justice League. IT IS SO GOOD.
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You already know my and Duo's feelings about tiny X.
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Dixie was seasoned by her teens due to repeated shifts in guardianship. But she tried really hard to be a nun! Honestly.
Juliet was forever influenced by her father's unavailability. She was a rough-and-tumble girl, tough as heck, and prepared for what the world might throw at her, and idolized her brothers.
Pinkie was sad and stuck on the rock farm. Muted coat. Sad eyes. She broke people when I brought her through Bar like that.
Eponine was spoiled and cossetted and it did her no good.