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Ironhide and Bumblebee are not sure why humans think this kind of thing is relevant to anything.

Mordin Solus thinks it's an adorable human superstition possibly relevant in the days when season of birth reflected more strongly the resources and nutrition available to child and nursing mother during the early days of life but beyond that ahahahaha no.

Vergil blinks at you with all six eyes and drifts away to repair an abandoned laptop computer.

Belar was born before the count of Time began on Gara because he and his brothers created the planet so horoscopes don't apply.

BLU Medic laughs at the concept and refuses to tell anyone his birthday anyway unless they work in the payroll department at BLU.

Ray was born October 15th 1972 and at this point is somewhere in the vicinity of 112 years old thanks to Belar's immortality intervention. Please don't ask him about horoscopes, he'll start splitting the specifics down so far by culture, calendar, method, implication, etc. that you'll never actually get an answer and my head will probably explode.

Ellen doesn't touch horoscope stuff with a ten foot pole. The only person she knew in the Vault who took that seriously was the not-really-right-in-the-head Beatrice, who used to do tarot card readings as well. Ellen was born July 13th, 2258, in the Jefferson Memorial building. The only part of any of that which is relevant in canon is "in the Jefferson Memorial building" and that's more for story line than anything to do with destiny or futures or funny details about the birth.

Gordon does not believe in horoscopes and will give you a withering look if you do. I set his birthday to January 12th, 1974. The only relevance it has in canon is that he had to be 27 when May 15th, 20xx (whatever year Black Mesa occurred) rolled around.

Adrian not only doesn't believe but is pretty sure he'd get smacked by his old pastor if he did. I do not know what his birthday is, although I probably should, poor boy.

Sariel doesn't really believe in the fortune-telly, horoscope-y end of things. She's familiar with enough cultures, Terran and otherwise, that the concept of any very narrow zodiac is a bit strange to her. add in the whole space travel thing, and... yeah, she doesn't think much about horoscopes. If someone else does, that's up to them, but she'll leave the idea alone, thanks.

Incidentally, I've set her birthday as June 9, since canon never said.

Data thinks there's absolutely nothing to it, but he finds it an interesting aspect of human (and alien) culture.

The astrological zodiac doesn't really exist in Japan, does it? I don't think it's very popular, anyway. *fails at knowing about the country I've studied for 4 years and now live in!* XD The Chinese Zodiac is more what they go by, I think, in which case Eiji and most of the guys on his team were born in the year of the Dog. I think there's a month-like system, too, but I can't be bothered. XD Eiji does believe in fortunes and horoscopes and good luck charms, though. But not any more that most of his teammates.

Interestingly, I find that both Data and Eiji's zodiac signs describe them very well. Eiji was born November 28th, and is a Sagittarius (http://www.psychicguild.com/horoscopes_zodiac.php?sign=Sagittarius). Data (going by his activation date of February 2nd) is an Aquarius (http://www.psychicguild.com/horoscopes_zodiac.php?sign=Aquarius).

I haven't decided Rosalie's birthday yet (it's not specifically mentioned in canon). But she probably doesn't put much weight on horoscopes anyway.

Question Mark thinks it's all rubbish.

There's always the blood type theory! It doesn't predict your future so much as your personality (in theory of course). And it wouldn't work for Data for obvious reasons, but yeah.

Yeah, y'know what's funny? Eiji's type A. XD That's just strange to me because I usually think of "Type A" personalities to be more like me or my sister-- works too hard, easily stressed. I would have pegged Eiji as more of a type O.

Gibbs believes in it. Every word of it. Even the ones that contradict the others.

Cy believes in magic, but is too scientific to believe in astrology. He's not sure about the tarot deck, but hesitates to ask Raven.

On occasion, Knox looks at the horoscopes in the papers. And places bets accordingly. Otherwise, he's a skeptic at best.

Kirk and Charlie (and the mun) are strict non-believers. All three of us are likely to quote Shakespeare on the matter.

PS: Kirk has a semi-canon birthday I rarely observe - it's Shatner's birthday. My other pups have no canon birthdays, and I have not felt inspired to give them any. Especially Charlie, whose date of birth is a mystery even to him.

It is also Snuffleupagus's birthday!

Well, it's possible to believe in tarot without believing in divination. That is, one can believe, as I do, that it is a useful tool for looking at situations from a new angle, and for "predicting" possible futures (which, indeed, you can do with anything).

Gibbs believes in it. Every word of it. Even the ones that contradict the others.

This made my morning for some reason. *still giggling*

Anna is a Sagittarius, on the cusp of Scorpio. I think she finds it all very fascinating but doesn't invest a lot of energy into it. She's ten, after all. As an adult, I can see her reading her horoscope occasionally and getting her fortune told at a fair on a whim. And while I don't remember horoscopes coming up in her canon . . . fortune-telling, psychics, destiny, fate, prophecy, things written and foretold . . . yeah. They've been mentioned once or twice.

Meg is an Aquarius. Meg does not believe that this fact has any impact on her life. She'll listen if one of her roommates wants to read her her horoscope out of the paper, but because it's polite. Meg really doesn't believe in Fate, etc. She does, however, find it handy to have a zodiac sign when introducing an angel to a vampire.

Elle Woods is a Gemini, and includes this information when she introduces herself in canon. I think she reads her horoscope every day, and can see her having told her fortune told.

Edward Cullen is a Gemini, but he's also hypothetically sitting right on the cusp between Gemini and Cancer. Both of which aren't all that far off of some very important things in his character. He could care less about horoscopes though I'm certain Alice reads them to him to hurt his head.

Esme Cullen has no information other than being born in 1895. But I feel she'd be more amused/entertained by the horoscopes in a frivolous fashion.

Marian has not a birthday or a birth year. I have a vague to history time lines for her life, but she doesn't have one and she'd be baffled at the whole notion of it, as well.

Star defies having planets and stars ascribed to her?

Haruhi Fujioka is an Aquarius which actually fits her quite well. She probably never reads horoscopes. I can though see Tamaki reading her love horoscope hinting at her, and sulking with the mushrooms at her not taking the SIGNS and the STARS OMG SERIOUSLY. In his favor. You know.

Allie Keys is another Gemini but she's at the very beginning of that period time-wise and very much only a Gemini.

And Illyana Rasputin points out Marvel characters are too cool to have birthdays. Birthday parties maybe every once in a rare while, but not birthdates.

I would not be at all surprised to find that Weyard has some sort of Zodiac, although probably with different animals and/or constellations than Earth's. Either way, though, Felix doesn't much care. He does, however, believe firmly in fortune tellers. This is because he has encountered two, both of whom were extremely accurate. (One told where the next plot point was, in "dangerous over there" warnings, and the other could pinpoint the next boss, Djinni, important item, or plot point.) I don't know when Felix was born; I tend to think sometime in spring or the first half of summer, but I don't know.

Lucas's home doesn't really have horoscopes but a lot is made about him being chosen for this or that. The circumstances of his birth relate to that but not in when he was born. It's Ionia who tells him most of this, whom I guess he trusts as much as he'd ever trust a magical transvestite that's friends with his grandpa.

Mia views divination as an imprecise branch of magic and doesn't spend much time on it. She aided in the death of the fortuneteller Royce, who compounded the fortunes of doom and mackin' on her man with the crime of working for the Magic Emperor. It took befriending Dominic Deegan in Milliways to remind Mia that divination itself isn't bad.

I have a fairly unique view on the whole thing myself. I look at horoscopes and fortunetelling as a way to look at how my mind works. I remind myself that I'm the one who puts meaning to what I see and read. With that in my head, I have a deck of playing cards that I like to read and there's always something my brain digs up to surprise me. And besides that, it's fun.

Lazy mun is staying in pup account.

We don't know what Amy's birthday is. Going by my convention of "Let's call it the first day the first episode of the series aired," so... um, I think she's Aries? Which is hilarious--SO not masculine (let alone male), fire is closer (what with the hair), and the something about being first. Amy doesn't take it at all seriously, but probably sometimes pretends to just to drive the occasional person nuts with it, and probably finds it amusingly silly.

Shockingly for all involved, we have a few hints to give us Tavi's birthday (I know, JB with a timeline? WTF is that about?). Anyway, after lots of uselessly hard work, this means that--depending on the seasons--Tavi's birthday is approximately somewhere in March or April. This puts him somewhere in any of three signs: Aries (discussed above, and with him being distinctly masculine and also male this is pretty Tavi-ish, and being ruled by the planet Mars... eh, yeah, he does war stuff); Pisces (which is SO hilarious, considering the nickname for his set of aerial troops is Knights Pisces, but it's feminine, introverted--and water-governed, which honestly makes it better for his mum than him), and Taurus (and a tired, nervous mun is too lazy to find out anything about it, but yeah, not at all Taviish.) Huh, odd, may have two pups with birthdays near each other.

...Anyway, all that is utterly irrelevant and was done by an exhausted and flaily mun, because if you ever mentioned astrology, horoscopes, etc to Tavi he would stare at you blankly for a little, ask a few incredulous questions and, if you weren't a believer or the sort to be offended, probably laugh his head off. Else he'd be polite and just be like "Er. No. Nothing like that where I'm from, and how do I phrase that it's idiotic diplomatically?" Yeah, he is just like O.o what is this weirdness, why are you worrying about predicting what a person will be like based on when they're born instead of just getting to know them? See the face in the icon.

...mun will stop being kind of rambly and out of it now.

I'm not sure if any of mine would know or care too much about horoscopes. I'm an Gemini and like reading them and its actually pretty apt for me too.

Pupwise, I've given Will a birthday but its not something he's ever paid attention to and horoscopes would be just another odd modern thing to him.

The idea of when you're born mattering has never come up in the Abhorsen Chronicles, its so much more about your bloodline.

Somewhere on the Disc, there are people who pay attention to astrology and horoscopes, Moist has never really looked for them. Also I don't know when his birthday.

I know the wiki will tell me when Jane's birthday is and again, I don't think she'd give it much credence.

Demeter is a goddess and thinks astrology is up there with omens and oracles, they can cause a lot of trouble when not done right.

I feel like Narnia might have a bit of a system, but I'm not sure of details.

The Pirate King also wouldn't really care unless it helps him figure something out.

I really don't want to be awake at the moment and my stomach is hurting and I don't know why.

Jack thinks horoscopes are bullshit, but I am personally lolling over some of the traits listed for one of his possible signs. His birthday is Feb. 18th, so some sources put him in Aquarius, some in Pisces, but the description with Aquarius is funnier considering the way it can be interpreted. LIke when talking about work and the webiste I'm looking at say they like a "fast pace and varied work experience". *snerk*

...ahahah. Ahahha. Oh, that's too hilarious for words.

Enzo's world has a completely different timescale, and lacks anything even resembling astronomical bodies. So there you go. Zodiacs don't make much sense to him, but he's willing to accept that things work differently in different worlds.

Veronica doesn't believe in that stuff at all. She is, however, a Leo, and fits it pretty well: she's certainly confident in herself, very passionate and protective, and she secretly enjoys her high-drama lifestyle (especially when it comes to her personal relationships). She can also be very moody, as well as stubborn and vain.

Still, Scorpio would work even better for V. I mean, check it out:

Scorpios are secretive, yet other people tend to tell them their own secrets. This often puts Scorpio in the role of counselor. Scorpios are excellent judges of character, and they have an incredible amount of sympathy for those who truly deserve it, but no sympathy or patience for whiners and people who are the authors of their own misfortune.

Yup.

Scorpios are extremists. Everything they do is all-or-nothing. They are risk-takers who have a lot of physical courage.

Yup! Though it goes on to talk about extreme sports, which isn't really up V's alley.

Scorpios can tolerate a lot of hardship and they can manage under the worst of conditions. They are good at overcoming obstacles and turning change and challenge to their advantage, which is useful because Scorpios tend to attract sudden changes and endure more than their fair share of hardship. They are extremely persistent, and will go after what they want with a fierce determination that is often rewarded. They are survivors, and adversity only makes them stronger.

Mmhmm.

Most Scorpios are not squeamish, which fits them for careers in medicine and rescue operations. They are cool under pressure and almost always in control of themselves, which makes them good spies and police officers.

I THINK I'M SENSING A PATTERN HERE. I'm going to stop now because otherwise I'll be blockquoting the whole rest of the page.

For the record, with the birthday that I semi-randomly assigned Elle (November 6), Elle actually is a Scorpio ;)

DAMN IT ELLE, THIS IS WHY I CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!

It's only to bother you.

Ben doesn't believe in Astrology at all yet still reads the horoscopes just for the heck of it. Sometimes he will get worried over bad ones though. I think he's more superstitious about it than actually believing it. For his birthday I couldn't remember his canonical one so I chose Jack Kirby's (Kirby has stated before that Ben is sort of a totem of his) which would make him a Virgo...which is hit and miss (http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/virgo.htm). Reading the bit about the Virgo man and their careful diet leaves me in stitches but Virgo's giving their whole hearts in love fits Ben pretty well.

Santo likes Astrology if it gets him chicks but that's about it.

Thalia doesn't follow it but she does believe in omens and prophecies. They just need to come from the Gods not the stars.

For every one of my pups, I think that answer is a resounding NO.

For some of them, it's even canon to call it bullshit.

Elle doesn't really know anything about horoscopes and doesn't care to, but that's mostly because it's a part of culture she doesn't really understand. She doesn't have any opinion on the potential accuracy of it because she hasn't really even thought about it enough to get to that point. To her, it's no different than religion or magic, both of which she's seen in some form in the Bar.

In the BSG universe, the zodiac is actually very important, though there's nothing really like zodiac-based astrology, exactly. The signs of the zodiac are the names of the original Twelve Human Tribes of Kobol, for which the Twelve Colonies of Kobol are named. They aren't recognized as constellations exactly, though it's eventually known that from Earth, the symbols of the Twelve Tribes are visible as constellations ("The scriptures say that when the thirteenth tribe landed on Earth, they looked up into the heavens and they saw their twelve brothers."). As far as I can remember, there are no particular associations with the tribes in terms of fortune telling, though the Colonies themselves have different characteristics (Caprica is affluent and powerful, Sagittaron was relatively poor due to a history of being exploited by the other Colonies, etc.). Obviously no one would have an astrological sign, though humans would be associated with their home Colonies. But I play Cylons, so... that doesn't count either. Caprica is named for the colony Caprica, which is in turn from the human tribe's ancient name Capricorn, and Sharon Agathon has false memories of living on a mining colony near Aerilon, named for Aries, but both were created in a Cylon space hub thing.

Emerson generally thinks horoscopes are nonsense, like any sort of fortune-telling. (He does, however, have some superstitions, particularly those about good and bad luck.)

Medusa...was born before there were seasons, or even a lot of stars. And she's probably related to a lot of the stars anyway. So, no horoscope for her.

Kait's world doesn't have astrology as far as I can tell, and she is entirely bemused by the concept. She barely believes in her own world's gods, let alone anything else. I also have no idea when her birthday is, and her world uses a very different calender. Hell, I'm not even sure if her world celebrates birthdays.

Camille is a Scorpio. Which probably factored into my assigning her a birthday, as I tend to use Zodiac as a rough meta guide if I don't have other things. And so, Camille is pretty much a perfect Scorpio, even though she really doesn't believe in it. At all. She knows what she is, but only because it is sometimes useful in her work (functional con-artist, yo)

Esfir is *checks* apparently a Gemini. She doesn't believe in horoscopes, at all. And the whole thing about Geminis loving to communicate and always talk is making her snort.

Trudy is a Leo. I'll be good and not make jokes about her basically being a big pussy-cat. She...hmm. She might not admit to it, but she's generally superstitious enough to at least check horoscopes and things in newspapers, although she doesn't take it any further.

Hoffman's birthday is October 22nd, 1965- making him a Scorpio/Dragon. While he fits both of these things (Judgemental, belief in structure and discipline, arrogant, egotistical, fierce, full of pride, devoted)

He finds this all complete and total bullcrap. His sister however believed strongly in it, despite being very religious.

Cobb is a January Rabbit, solid and sturdy and good with plans, but creative and artistic. He holds some stock in it because his wife did, but it doesn't drive him or anything.

and I am a double-gemini rabbit, which is worth noting because I bounce all over the place. XD.

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